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NoNukes
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Message 46 of 53 (809907)
05-22-2017 3:55 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Faith
05-21-2017 2:08 AM


Re: Other geniuses
Oh for pete's sake. There has never been any sense of socially sanctioned discrimination like what is shown in the movie. No separate bathrooms and no feeling there should be, no separate coffee pots, no separate sitting areas, no back of the bus, no separate fountains.

Never? I will take this to mean that you believe that the era when there were separate bathrooms, water coolers, lunch counters and back of the bus stuff ended before the time depicted in the movie, and not that such times never happened.

You are nowhere close to the truth.

It turns out that stuff like that did in fact exist in the early 1960s. The private high school I attended in Georgia, was integrated for the first time in the late 1960s. I could tell you some really eye opening stories about what happen to the first black students to attend. The freedom riders bus program was in 1961. The 16th Street Church bombing was in 1963. Federal troops were required to support the entry of black students into the University of Alabama in 1963.

All of that stuff overlaps the events depicted in the movie.

Perhaps you lived in a place of sunshine and light during that period. That does not justify your maintaining that the stuff depicted in the movie was wrong without at least checking first. I'll never understand that attitude. But at least its harmless enough in this instance.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Faith
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Message 47 of 53 (809908)
05-22-2017 3:57 AM
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05-22-2017 3:55 AM


Re: Other geniuses
Please go back and read what I said in context. Sheesh.
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dwise1
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Message 48 of 53 (809910)
05-22-2017 4:10 AM
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05-22-2017 3:33 AM


Ja, Der Steppenwolf habe ich vielmals gelesen. Meistens fühle mich als ob ich auch ein Steppenwolf bin. Doch habe ich noch nicht zu lachen gelernt.

Das Glasperlenspiel can be rather abstract. Did you read the lives at the end? Especially the Indian Life? There is an old tale about a sailor who's swept from his boat and rescued by a mermaid, etc, and goes on to many adventures until he finally drowns from the initial event. It was redone in Clay Pigeon (1971) where a Vietnam soldier throws himself upon a grenade, lives an entire life, and then the grenade explodes.


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Son Goku
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Message 49 of 53 (809913)
05-22-2017 5:28 AM
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05-22-2017 3:51 AM


Re: Math and Language
After my divorce, I had a friend in the dance community who was wary of trying to learn a second dance. With the first dance, you have also learned the basic skills for learning a dance, so the third dance will be easy.
Having learned a second language (USA experience without considering any pre-puberty acquisition), the third and fourth and fifth languages are so much easier. Part of learning that second language involves learning how to learn another language, which itself can be considered a skill.

Thanks for this info, I am natively bilingual (i.e. both are my mother tongue) would that mean I wouldn't have acquired the skill of "learning another language" as fully as somebody who learns as an adult (just looking for your expertise here).

I'm planning to start in the summer, when a few other projects will be finished (just have to pick a language have it narrowed to three).


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Faith
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Message 50 of 53 (809927)
05-22-2017 9:25 AM
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05-22-2017 4:10 AM


I can read about two thirds of the sentence in German. I also gravitated toward languages but never really learned any well enough to use it. I can almost carry on a conversation in Spanish, but "almost" is probably an exaggeration. I had three college semesters of German, one of French and three weeks of Russian. Enough to get a little flavor of them all.

No, I didn't read the back of Magister Ludi either. Steppenwolf was a cult book for my generation.


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Message 51 of 53 (809939)
05-22-2017 10:17 AM
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05-22-2017 9:25 AM


As Steppenwolf was for my generation (I'm 65), though I identified strongly with it and for decades the original German edition has been my companion for long waits.

Give "The Indian Life" a read. I really wish I could be reminded of the similar story of the drowning sailor, which is the true classic story.

DWise1 writes:

Ja, Der Steppenwolf habe ich vielmals gelesen. Meistens fühle mich als ob ich auch ein Steppenwolf bin. Doch habe ich noch nicht zu lachen gelernt.

Yes, I have read Der Steppenwolf many times. Mostly I feel as if I am a Steppenwolf. Though I have not yet learned to laugh.

I just returned from a three-week vacation in Austria and Germany. However, since I was travelling with my friend who doesn't know any German, I didn't get much opportunity to use German.

Edited by dwise1, : German translation

Edited by dwise1, : Deutschland


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NoNukes
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Message 52 of 53 (809947)
05-22-2017 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Faith
05-22-2017 3:57 AM


Re: Other geniuses
Please go back and read what I said in context. Sheesh.

I did. Your comments were just wrong.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Faith
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Message 53 of 53 (809950)
05-22-2017 10:51 AM
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05-22-2017 10:17 AM


Funny how "Steppenwolf" seemed to speak to so many --my generation is ten years before yours. We all thought we were Steppenwolves.

I can't find "The Indian Life" online.

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