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Ya no kidding!Who would wanna be under some ol fudydudies thumb, when you could join the Gods of Valhalah in a final showdown with the evil ice giants!Now that's freakin cool!

This IS the problem with evolutionists/atheists.SHOW them evidence of a creator AND they reject it !Since NONE of you believe in ANY type of creator it is left up to the THEIST to define the entity WITHIN the nebula.Jesus FITS the bill Wise

I see.And was there *4 accounts by *4 different authors?quote:
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Are you referring to when the Muslims took the Holy lands or when the Christians went to get them back?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope.If it wasn't for the Church you would still be believing in the "sun god"Wise

Rejection of facts?????My dear, I ENDEAVOR to be ACCURATE as you HAVE SEEN.Wise

Wise, So does Mohammed.& does God have cataracts? Because he really needs to see an optician.Mark[This message has been edited by mark24, 09-15-2003]

No, I believe in Odin. You'll have to prove it's not Odin before you can prove it's Jesus. After all I have some very old and very rare documents talking about Odin, and if they're rare and old, they must be true, right? You said that was "Archeology 101", as I recall.

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And was there *4 accounts by *4 different authors?

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I have come up with TWO ACCOUNTS of this so far! There's one account in the Iliad. Then there's another one in another ancient text called THE ANEID!!!If I find two more accounts does that mean it's true then???

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If it wasn't for the Church you would still be believing in the "sun god"

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Oh that's a relief, I'd rather believe in THE God.And you know, you haven't really accounted for the church's wanting to kill Galileo for believing the Earth revolved around the Sun.If the church wanted to KILL a scientist who was doing SCIENCE, Science which, to this day has HELD UP, then how is that nurturing science? Please answer because I JUST DON'T KNOW ANYMORE!!!

docpotato, don't forget the Odessey![This message has been edited by Yaro, 09-15-2003]

good point, but it doesn't count... same author.

actually, it is widely disputed weather Homer wrote the Odessey. The writting stiles are different.Some books of the bible are disputed by christians themselves as to authorship, so I think the Odessey is fair game.Throw in Heroditus, who mentions troy in a few parts, and you got yourself a quartet

Oh!Trojan Women by Euripidies! Ummm.... Aschylus, the Orestia!Hey, now you got Six! Six back you up.Man, Zeus must be real! All hail Xeno, God of strangers.

Do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE in Odin ?Fine...Heh heh heh...Wise

EXcccuuuuuuuseeeeee me.................You DON'T BELIEVE in Mohammed....NOT like I DO JESUS !!!So there IS a difference !Since when did you adopt "spirituality"?Wise

Find *4 or more...AND make SURE that they occure ALL at once !Better yet...IF there is a resurrection with witnesses, show THAT to!quote:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually the Church did Galileo a BIG favor.IF they did NOT threaten him he would NOT have written a book in 1632 that was in direct contradiction to the 1616 edict !So INDIRECTLY, the CHURCH ACTUALLY PROMOTED SCIENCE !Wise[This message has been edited by Wise, 09-16-2003]

Don't you? You showed me the picture of him, after all.Why would what you or I believe have anything to do with what is? We're trying to talk about which entities actually exist. Which ones we believe exist or not is irrelevant. Evidence is the only objective measure of existence.