Definition please

Makes you wonder if we are not seeing a masterfull presentation.Is RR for real?

No, DHA stands for Diamond Hard Athiest.Morals arise because we are social animals.For futher understandings of morals you may want to look at the laws in force in your juristiction.Could you, in your own words define god, please.

If you had at least asked him to define demons it would have been a stab at staying on topic.LOLSo what's your god?I'm saying if you can't define it, it isn't real.

Of course I was raised around predisposed ideas of what God was supposed to look like,(bearded white guy in robes with English accent) where He came from, (Heaven, of course) and his role in my life(The one with all the answers whom I prayed to)It was not until I "got saved" that I actually was clearly aware of His reality...presence, and power. I can only describe the experience as awe inspired fear,not fear as in being afraid of having offended or done wrong but rather, fear in an awe and reverential way. I KNEW that I had somehow met a living power that was far greater than anything that my mind could ever explain.NOW...to explain my God to you? Well, I know that He loves you in that I am encouraged to do likewise. I know that He is not a product of my imagination precisely because I cannot explain how He looks. I DO know that He is in charge of me, yet the only real way for you to get to know Him(apart from Him prompting you) is to get to know a believer...on a level that is deeper than mere religious posturing.This message has been edited by Phatboy, 02-13-2005 17:50 AM

If you were certain that you had experienced a ghost, for example, I could probably attempt to examine the evidence and conclude one of the three answers that you mention. If numerous people began to describe this same ghost, I could still insist that they were either deluding themselves or were mistaken, but I should also consider the possibility that they were right.Who am I to deny the testimony of numerous character witnesses? Why should my human derived wisdom of empirical science be my highest standard of judgement?

No not really - millions of people saw that David Blaine sat in a box with no food for many days. The human mind is pretty feeble and easy to fool.

What were you saved from?I have experienced awe and it had nothing to do with fear.

who is david blaine and why did he sit in a box?

Well, I can't disagree with you there. The verdict is not yet in on the supernatural, in general. It all boils down to belief, anyway. There are some things that are experienced by humans that leave no verifiable trace except on the human psyche. The term is a figure of speech. This is a whole nother topic, however. Suffice it to say that the day that I got saved, I met God. Me, too. I would wager that if you were near Mt. St. Helens when it blew its top and took out the side of a Mountain, you would experience awe and fear. The same if you were on a beach as the Tsunami rolled towards you and you strived to make out what was happening...the realization would move you.
All I can say is that the realization that I felt moved me. So much so that I am 100% certain of it to this day.This message has been edited by Phatboy, 02-14-2005 00:42 AM

What is "righteness"?If your going to insult, then you need to be consistent. Mike was the one to first accuse me of living in a demon haunted world, which I have no problem with.So then, why is it, you say something to me, but not him?
I think your full of it. Bingo! That is the key of my last response to you. What I believe in, or do not believe in, should have nothing to do with God. It is only my take on it, as I have sad many times before. I represent the human race, not God, as do you.No one on this forum should use what I say to believe or not believe in God. They must use their own judgement, I never implied anything more or less. That is why my encourage ment to mike was to read the bible and compare it to real life. That means you must comprehend it also. This is also not a 100% garauntee that he will believe, but he seems smart enough that if he were to really study what the bible is really about, he might believe.Mike got bent out of shape, because he feels that that's not true, that if you read the bible, that you will believe, as do others. It's the biggest fallalcy ever, right? But the more I speak to people who believe it is a fallacy, the more I see that they do not understand the bible.You can't find God unless you seek for him. He will knock at your door several times in your life, but then you must seek for him.All this is my humble Christian opinion. If you think it's arrogance or anything else, that's problem that you have, not me.*edit for spelling, I haven't drank my coffee yet.*This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 02-14-2005 06:49 AM

I should have added, no one would admit to believing in it.I think the scientific method is the ultimate tower of babel.
I am not putting down science, I love it.Check out my next thread I am going to start, then we can talk about it more.Smart people such as yourself do not let science run your life, or believe in things that aren't proven right?

There are many things in life that we cannot define, yet they exist, so much for that.The funny thing is the bible contains 3 million words, and you want me to sum it up here on the forum.I'll give it a shot, in a word, Love.

That is 100% correct. That is because we are not God. God is specific to each of us, and has a purpose for each of us.There is however a general conscensis amoung true born again Christians as to who and what God is. There rules for following him can be slightly different, but that is only rules set forth by man.When you are born again, or baptized with the Holy Spirit, you then know God. (I will speak for myself here, but many others would agree) Once you know the truth, you can then read and comprehend the bible much better. It's something that I cannot explain to you, for it could not be explained to me. But it happens. Many are called but few are choosen. God has a specific purpose for you in your life. When you come in line with that purpose you will be happy (I'm not saying your not happy now, for I was too). Everyone seeks the truth.This is why I hate religion, even though I am now "religious" to a degree. I have made a vow with myself, should my religion ever cause me pain or hurt, that I would never use it to not believe in God.

It may take awhile to get to know me. You may even hate me, that's fine.
But give me a chance, that's all I ask. I do not know anything about you, so it will take some conversation.

You know, if you don't believe in demons then you are decieved.I know you don't and your angry that I now said that to you.But I want you to look around at the world Charles, and picture in your mind that everything that happens in the realy world (reality) is a reflection of what's going on in the spiritual.If you don't know what I mean by that, ask me questions.
Try not insulting me.