New Big Bang Cosmology

...a leading edge, a middle and a frontier where known physical laws breakdown as inside the singularties.shock waves...eh ??? that reminds me of ripples in a spherical pond and all embedded in a higher medium a "white hole" of singular nothingness that is only relative to itselfthat sounds like something i thought of too but with less proof...now i wonder if they can make the black holes lead to the edge or middle and appear as tendrils extending back thru spacetime and acting as balance mechanisms to maintain equilibrium around a fixed central expansion point or even make them detachable to become wormholes...So does that model imply a universe resembling the skinned membrane of a bubble that is 13.7 billion light years thick but when veiwed from a point outside of the expanding sphere would resemble a bubble infinitely large and would it not then also allow for consequent ripples of the initial blast to exist as alternate universes...time will tell and i got nothing to losebut it seems that deafening silence is becoming a roar that may well resonate thru the entire universe and beyond

...so what about my inflating 13.7 billion light year thick membrane of a bubble type universe with black hole tendrils ???I'd settle for being called an ignorant crackpot and pointed in the right direction...

...needs work huh ???Thank you Sylas, I appreciate your honesty and please don't pull any punches. How else are we to learn if we are to scared to say what we think for fear of causing offense and I take most things short of personal insults as constructive criticism......I'll look into that link you posted and get back to youI warn you though, the questions are just going to keep coming I hope you're up to answering them...RK

...I just noticedI said the bubble membrane was 13.7 billion light years thick as in the distance covered by light from the initial point of the big bang to reach it's current position at the leading edge of the inflating universe...On a side note, is it a known fact that nothing can exceed the speed of light if so is that the expansion rate of the universe if not then can we assume the gravitational pull of a black hole is "faster" or does it just accelerate up to speed faster ???eg...a rear drive light powered engine pushes a white car up to speed and a front drive black hole powered engine pulls a black car up to speed.which car would win assuming of course the black car doesn't disappear into it's own engine...

If you shone a light out from inside a black hole it would be trying to escape but it couldn't because the acccelerative pull on it would keep it inside the hole......think of a person on a bungy leash running away. They can't escape the pull of the bungy cord unless they hit a critical speed and develop a force that exceeds that of the bungy's ability to hold on to you and it snaps then you are away racing (escape velocity ???)so if you attach yourself to the bungy which is at maximum extension and tried to run away at light speed you would still get pulled backwards at a rate faster than you are trying to escape...y/ndoes that make sense ???...or is it dependent on your weight/sizeNext question...do all black holes exert the same amount of pull no matter how big they are ???

Can the gavitational pull of a large black hole accelerate something to exceed light speed once it has crossed the event horizon ???

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Caveat: there are models which speak of leading edges in expansion of space, but it is much better to get to grips with the simplest models first. The leading edge in such models is still nothing like the expanding shell of matter from a conventional explosion

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I didn't actually say explosion of matter...so do these caveat models contradict conventional big bang models if one says leading edge and middle and one says no ???...also if a light particle initiated by the big bang started it's travels thru space at T=0 and it travelled for 13.7 billiion years where would it be now ???

...the event horizon is the point at which something hits lightspeed and disappears off the radar so to speak...???beyond that it instantly hits the singularity or does it continue accelerating for who knows how long depending on the mass of the hole and eventually hits a singular nothing or does it continue til infinity as time means nothing and therefore distance is irrelevent...and Nosy that's exactly what I'm trying to get at !!!...the centre is unique and exists in a different dimension, something that exists outside of spacetime.

sorry Sylas the centre I meant was in regard to Nosy saying this...

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If there was a center that point would be unique in some way. So the center is not anywhere we can point to. It is in another dimension (??).

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...and still based on the universe being between the outer surface and inner surface of the bubble skin premise

...but I'm still not buying what you're sellingnonsense is relative and I don't hold the monopoly on it. Are you saying that a bubble skin doesn't have an inside or outside surface ???on a side note, I was just reading somewhere that the universe is estimated to be 172 billion light years acrosss yet only 13.5 billion years old so going by what we discussed earlier about a particle starting it's journey at t=0 how can this be especially if light speed supposedly can't be exceeeded ???...unless expanding space carrying matter in the initial stages of the universe exceeded the supposed maximum velocity of light speed by a considerable amount as seems to be the theorybut getting back to bubbles, the thickness of it's skin as viewed from inside the skin itself gives you no indication of the size of the bubble as viewed from a point outside of it especially if (viewed from inside the skin) light bends around the inner surface and you can't actually see the outer surface as the light hasn't caught up to the expanding outer edge. That would leave a big sumthing we don't have a frame of reference for to fill the bubble itself......don't know much about riemann geometry but I will look it up and try to assimilatethanx