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kofh2u
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Message 3 of 13 (99105)
04-10-2004 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Angeldust
04-10-2004 1:44 AM


Not three and not wisemen...
The King James interpretors were so shocked upon translating the word "magi" that they refused to translate it into English, leaving it for centuries to be read as Magi. Others perverted the word into "wisemen" which in itself makes one wonder what they were thinking.
The word magi is a Persian word, that is the area of Iran today. That is also the land of Zoroastrianism.
Magi is the root of "magic" as no-no in Chritian dogma. Apparently, the mening of that word to the Persians was "Astrologers." We know that this is so, because today, belatedly, the last edition of the Catholic Bible has changed the translation to "astrologers from the east."
Check me out.
This all ties in with the fact that there was (and is to be revealed) a Hebrew Kabbalah (mysticism in that it is presently a mystery) which is found in the scriptures in the form of a well described literary contrivance in Genesis, and a symbolic analogy to support it in Exodus.

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kofh2u
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Message 10 of 13 (127089)
07-23-2004 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by arachnophilia
05-21-2004 7:04 PM


babylonia?
no.
The magi were Persian Astrologers,...
...Persia was modern day Iran...
...while Iraq was Babyloia.

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kofh2u
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Message 11 of 13 (127096)
07-23-2004 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Amlodhi
07-23-2004 4:10 PM


corript?
You opinion is as valid at St Matthew, the text, of course.
Nd the astronomical chronology is supposedly correct, but not accepted enough to help date the actual year of the birth of zJesus, which remains debated.
However, whether or not magi vidited as the tale goes, it is no midtake that we find the story here, in scripture. For what ever reason, Astrologers of some particular type apparently are acceptable and wekcome visitors by the Chriist and Holy Family. That's the Word.
The implication seems to support the fact that the Jews, until this very day, revere a Jewish Astrology, Kabbalah. Tghe rabbi study historical Kabbalah, what we would call Jewish Mysticism, and which they, the Rabbi, define as "The Secret Esoteric Knowledge of Israel."
In this nagi story, it appears the long held dislike for astrology in Christian theology has a gaooing hole available for Jew inputs.

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