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Author Topic:   A few questions for Intelligent Design
John
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Message 7 of 21 (12909)
07-06-2002 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by w_fortenberry
07-06-2002 2:03 PM


This reply completely sidesteps the point made by Peter.
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Message 9 of 21 (12932)
07-06-2002 11:16 PM
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07-06-2002 8:51 PM


quote:
Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
Please explain
It doesn't seem to avoid Peter's option #3. All of what you mentioned is well within misinterpretted phenomena, especially after a few generation have passed.
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Message 11 of 21 (12951)
07-07-2002 9:52 AM
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07-07-2002 12:00 AM


quote:
Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
Please review Peter's post. His main premise was that "in the Bible God only operates within the governing rules of his creation." My reply was a refutation of this premise.
I see your point.
I'm not sure how strict Peter intended 'within the laws of his creation' to be, so I should just phrase what I am thinking. Everything mentioned in your refutation is within a very narrow range of human experience. Its easy to add a detail and call it supernatural. Such is the hallmark of mytholgy worldwide. I just don't see the significance I guess.
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Message 13 of 21 (12954)
07-07-2002 11:04 AM
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07-07-2002 10:22 AM


quote:
Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
Could you please explain what you mean by "a very narrow range of human experience?"
Perhaps you could also provide a few examples of how the events mentioned could have had details added to them to make them seem supernatural.

Well....
... the burning bush. This is an easily observed event. Add 'but was not consumed' and you've got a supernatural event.
... the plagues of Egypt. Scaled up natural disasters. All you have to do is increase the scale.
... the dead rising. Not all that uncommon really, in that until recently death was not as easily diagnosed as one might think.
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Message 20 of 21 (13179)
07-09-2002 7:21 PM
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07-09-2002 2:43 PM


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Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
Actually the book of Matthew was written by Matthew. Thus the writer would have had first hand knowledge of this particular event.
I understand that you believe this on faith, but what of the rest of us. What evidence can you present to back up this claim. As per my own understanding, the evidence is stacked heavily against you. Thus, your claim that the author had first hand knowledge doesn't hold.
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