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Topic: Dear believers in no after-life
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Trump won 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 1 of 33 (149203)
10-11-2004 8:52 PM
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To those that follow Nietzsche's principles can one explain the feeling of no longer existing?
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 2 of 33 (149204)
10-11-2004 8:58 PM
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How in Sam Tucket would there be a feeling of not existing? That sounds pretty oxymoronic to me. This message has been edited by Coragyps, 10-11-2004 07:58 PM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 3 of 33 (149206)
10-11-2004 8:59 PM
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since I exist - no.
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 4 of 33 (149208)
10-11-2004 9:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 2 by Coragyps
10-11-2004 8:58 PM
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Yeah it is. That's why I don't see it as being possible.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 5 of 33 (149209)
10-11-2004 9:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 4 by Trump won
10-11-2004 9:05 PM
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non-existance? What about our statements makes you say that?
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 6 of 33 (149210)
10-11-2004 9:08 PM
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My problem is I can't see dying and then just not existing. There's a connection between that and abiogenesis with me. You know. How could the created create itself
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 7 of 33 (149211)
10-11-2004 9:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by CK
10-11-2004 9:07 PM
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Well when you die you die, that's it right?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 8 of 33 (149212)
10-11-2004 9:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Trump won
10-11-2004 9:08 PM
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Chris that is a classic argument from incredibility - you understand what that does not work, right?
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6527 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 9 of 33 (149213)
10-11-2004 9:12 PM
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Well... lets phrase it another way...
Where were you before you were born? Did you feel anything? Death is the same thing.
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Gary
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Message 10 of 33 (149216)
10-11-2004 9:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
10-11-2004 8:52 PM
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I'm not particularly familiar with Nietzsche, but I think it would be just like things were before you or I were born. I don't see any evidence that it would be any other way.
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 11 of 33 (149217)
10-11-2004 9:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by CK
10-11-2004 9:11 PM
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No I don't. Please explain it to me. Do you yes or no believe when you die you cease from living. Why wouldn't you give me a straightfoward answer?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 12 of 33 (149220)
10-11-2004 9:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 11 by Trump won
10-11-2004 9:23 PM
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quote:
Do you yes or no believe when you die you cease from living.
Yes when you die you cease from living. basically the "arguement from C" goes like this: "I can't understand how such a thing could occur - therefore it could not occur".
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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1423 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: 06-23-2003
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Message 13 of 33 (149221)
10-11-2004 9:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 11 by Trump won
10-11-2004 9:23 PM
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I agree with Gary. What did it feel like to you not to be born yet? Why should it feel any different not to exist anymore? regards, Esteban Hambre
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Buzsaw
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Message 14 of 33 (149227)
10-11-2004 9:34 PM
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The fact that humans are soooo much more intelligent than brute beasts, imo, is indicative that humans have an eternal spirit. I would think that even evos would wonder why we allegedly evolved much more intelligent than the rest of life. That man can manipulate, train, confine and rule over each and every one of the animals should say something about our higher state of life. The Genesis record says God gave man this authority over the animals. Adam named them all.
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 15 of 33 (149228)
10-11-2004 9:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
10-11-2004 9:34 PM
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That man can manipulate, train, confine and rule over each and every one of the animals should say something about our higher state of life Buz, even ants keep, manipulate, and farm other insects.
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