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Author Topic:   Is this Intelligent Design or not?
Brad McFall
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Message 8 of 15 (16508)
09-03-2002 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Me
09-02-2002 3:16 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Me:
[B]I raised this in another thread, but thought it was sufficiently important to run on its own.
Evolutionary techniques are not only applicable to biological organisms; they can (and are) being used in other areas of engineering. I have heard of a couple of circuit designs built this way, and the story below is particularly interesting. It concerns an attempt to evolve an oscillator, which resulted in the development of a radio receiver.
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The points which seem to be raised:
There was no conscious desire on the part of the computer or the operator to create a radio - it just happened as a result of the application of evolution. So was it designed or not?
Would you recognise it as being designed? If so, why? (the design will almost certainly not resemble a human design)[/QUOTE]
[/B]
I generally try to flesh out the best evolutionist's response before I attempt to put my own opinion in to the mix so for this series of quiries it seems to me that Ernst Mayr committed some time and labor to working on these sorts of answers for how he could hold to a genetic revolution under allopatric speiciation( for me this has more to do with topography but then it would take me too long to work that sentence in or out as you would prefer i do...) while he attempted to bring Aristotle's notion of unmoved mover and cause types into the modern view of molecular biology. Like Mayr adjudged "bean bag genetics" I do not think he has been programtically succusseful in this his attempt at philosophy for the organicist but describing the structure underlying your questions in this kind of biology should not prevent one from retaining an interest in an answer in terms of design but a more information technology appreication of science and less attention to traditional philosophy of science would be needed in the specification given that I carry out to the implementation.
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Is this a case of a new object being created by evolution - something the creationists say cannot happen?

mY OWN interest in object oriented programming extends to the truncated disscussion on maps and standards that I started elsewhere but for being distracted again and again have not taken up directly as yet. The founder population would not be "new" in a thermodynamic sense but then again the theory of evolution even to the Ford view of ecological genetics simply does not operate on this physical a level but that biology is badly in need of a more throughgoing physicologcial genetics able to term wise associate with "evolution" in th economic and instrumental sense would help if it had truths for transmission genetics within the program being worked on yet my viewpoint continues to see come conceptual work here where simple pragmatic application across disciplines would not work.

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