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mikehager
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Message 11 of 66 (170851)
12-22-2004 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by umliak
12-21-2004 8:24 PM


The same old same old.
Again, we're hearing the same old stuff. Maybe you can help me on two little points.
First, give me one good reason I should accept the Bible over the Prose and Poetic Eddas or the Koran or any of the countless oral traditions about gods and creation and so forth.
Second, show why a mythic mindset is valid in the first place. Why do we need gods?

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Message 13 of 66 (170892)
12-22-2004 4:01 PM
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12-22-2004 3:16 PM


Re: The same old same old.

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Message 25 of 66 (171051)
12-23-2004 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by umliak
12-22-2004 11:02 PM


Re: The same old same old.
Please show your calculations for a 1 kg cannonball falling from a height of 10 meters and how the atmospher exerts force on it.
Because the atmosphere is as physical as you and I. If you put dirt in a glass of water, the dirt will settle at the bottom and the water up top. So why then is the earth not endoused in water, if water rises? Because the water is creationally destined to rise above and settled in the clouds above. Need more proof of this? As it settles above, as sure as it turns to snow the more water there arises (in autumn it dries out dramatically, clothing the sky in white clouds, and then it turns into snow because systematically (I believe by God) in the future the water is meant to settle in the clouds--and the so the deader the ground becomes, the more heaven matures), the more the clouds are going to settle and form into the new creation.
Likewise science tells us that that outmost layer of a sphere is the greatest volume: so where you get the greater surface area of the clouds above, and rising, you see that as sure as the clouds in autumn mimic the prophecy and become snow, when all the water finally evaporates into the sky, it's going to freeze. Now why would water freeze? Because in order to cover the larger surface area, ice expands. So elementally and creationally it all works out. You see that as sure as a simple model of dirt in a glass of water show you how things settle in a certain manner, then as sure as we have dry ground and life (and the water hasn't covered the ground), it is in essence drying and forming the heavens above. The clouds, in order to create a new world--a new ground, a new earth, a new surface. All of our water will settle there, earth will, from outerspace, become a big white ball--covered as one big cloud. And the water will freeze, cover the greater surface area, and then you will understand.
For there is a precise order of things; it's not the crazy atheist view of chaos. If it were, water would not expand as ice and settle in the clouds above in such a perfect way. Likewise it would also not compact and turn into liquid the further it moved toward the core, so as to cover a lesser surface area. And the temperatures also even out with this.
Everything is so perfect, and while now that I have explained this, and if you can comprehend this, you may just blame it on the Laws of Physics. I for one recognize the perfection of prophecy of and science, and that which I can understand, and see that if there were a Big Bang, it is only because God is that Big Bang, and God is the Creator.

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Message 30 of 66 (171217)
12-23-2004 7:41 PM
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12-23-2004 6:54 PM


Re: The same old same old.

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mikehager
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Message 33 of 66 (171225)
12-23-2004 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by umliak
12-23-2004 7:58 PM


Re: I'm sorry but...
No, I don't think I'm finished with you. Your more recent posts at least have the limited virtue of brevity, so they are an improvement.
So, you can believe the stories on that page all you want, but you still have provided no support for your claim that any reasonable person will accept. It didn't even address the issue in question.
Will you withdraw your claim or not?

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mikehager
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Message 60 of 66 (171770)
12-27-2004 5:25 PM
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12-23-2004 8:01 PM


Re: I'm sorry but...
Still waiting for that backup of your claim about speaking in tongues or your retraction of it.

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