Religion Mandating Life

Should Religion[I mean all applications of this word] be granted the authority or exclusive mandate to define morality, purpose, the
meaning of life, or other questions such as these,I got this question or idea off of my NOMA thread. Q. stated it in a reply. It is an interesting question to consider, and I wanted to see what you guys thought about it.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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So in reply to you post, where do you think that the moral system comes from? Do not all morals come from some type of religion? Are the basic ethics based off of a religion? I am curious."Religion can appeal for support to nothing but the personal biases of its adherents. And with religion, those biases become infused with the force of God's will. That is a very dangerous combination."When you say God's will, you are meaning the particular deity of that religion are you not? The will of God being what the adherents would like that will to be? Am I correct? Please correct me if I am wrong. Regardless of the meaning, I do agree with the dangerous combination. It has brought much division and grief.Thanks for the post, look forward to hearing you replies.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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I wonder then, why we who are Americans, who are very patriotic after 9/11/01, do not remember the fact which you posted.I have heard nothing short of the great way this country was founded and also the constitutioin [sorry mispelled] which is the backbone to our survival. Why do the religion activists continually forget that there is "separation of church and state"? Surely with everything going on as it is today, they would be continually reminded of this priniciple.I do not understand how anyone could forget this basic principle, it is like forgetting 2 + 2 + 4.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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I agree.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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LOL------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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I shudder at the things done in the Name of God.So religion comes from making morals metaphysical. Why do we need religion? Obviously it does not encourage human survival [persecutions and Middle Ages]. Would the world be better off without religion? We should have left it at morals, and not made anything metaphysical about it.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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How dare you try to conncect word dots that are not even there?I merely posed a question? There is a connection between answer and question, but it stops here. In no way can two posts connect completly. You are very wrong to assume."READ is that $$ in question can not be afforded to faith based groups of any stripe and these assocations of inviduals can only have legal recourse throughout the court system. This is not fair even if my reading is also not fair. I would say then that even to try this as an academic double jeoporday class action is acitivity no person can loom even if it was possible to CONTINUOUSLY use both arms and legs which was once tried in GErmany etc"I know what you are answering out of, as it was postes in another post somewhere. You cannot use personal experiences in a open minded debate. Then your position would be biased, which it is. I do not agree with what happened. But then again, you would use personal beliefs and not personal circumstances to answer this question.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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I have read this post, but due to limited time, I will have to reply later either tomorrow or this weekend.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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Quetzal,I need more time to read the rest of the essay. It is well-written, I am about half-way down. I should reply to you later in the week regarding this. Thanks for posting it.Hope to discuss some of its finer points.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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I will concede to that point in earlier history. But, my guess is because they did not know that most of those things were in another area but religion. Ex, all the areas you listed now fall under their own separate magesteriums other than religion.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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Okay just for interest,
Who decides if it is okay to keep a certain belief system and which one to throw away? What gives us the right to decide for all humankind?
Intersting thought, both systems will promote war. Think on this one for a little while. It is a enteratining excercise in philosophy and the laws of logic.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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Thanks for posting. Agrees with this. This is what I was driving to in the previous post.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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leekim,How nice to see you, glad to see you missed the point. You are right does 2+2+2 make sense out of its proper context? Of course not. Does taking the principles outside the magesterium of law and trying to force it on the magesterium of religion make sense, of course not. No on else has written on this point. This was to make a point. I do not hold with people taking other things from other magesterium without saying they are pulling it from that magesterium to argue with another magesterium. I would not argue in the Magesterium of Science with religious argument [ with the hypothetical situation of me being religious]. That is ludicrous. That was the point.Sure, yes I have read many documents that would support that view point of yours, but many of the founding fathers were not very good role-models. Ahh the beauties of censorship. How convienent it is for us historians. Let the people get what we want to teach them.Guess what no where in the Constitution will you find the word God. Find it, and I will be impressed. Seems to me somone has not done "extensive" study. Besides what if we did know more than you did? Ooooh how awful that would be.Be careful of the comments you make, people do not apprciate them and will sometimes retaliate.You have been warned. And, I never claimed to be an expert in law. This is one of my areas of personal enjoyment research field. So, if there are any lawyers out there, please give some citations about the separation of church and state. Best darn thing that happened for this country.Thank goodness they took religion out of school.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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Hate to break it too you, but the vast majority were not religious. You can find this out in any standard history book or from their words themselves.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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I believe that most religions are simply ways for other human beings to control other human beings. That would explain the wars and the religious persecutions going on.I say religion is bunk, all it does is divide, it does not unite which is one of its purposes. If it supposed to bring one closer to the Deity, I do not see how, for what I do see, makes me want to get the heck away from any type of religion very quickly.Do not want to have anything to do with blind faith.------------------
Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day