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Author Topic:   Physical Energy = Thermal Energy
Ben!
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Message 5 of 9 (192078)
03-17-2005 6:06 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Brad McFall
03-16-2005 2:22 PM


Re: I dont think so-
Brad,
I found this post readily accessible, except for one thing--"biokinetic" and "biopotential" energy. I did a quick Google search, as well as an EVCForum search, and I pretty much turned up nothing.
Are these two any different from "chemical energy," which seems already to be a "summation" primarily composed of electro-magnetic (potential) energy? Just guessing here; please give me a little bit more, if you could.
It seems rather simple to imagine biokinetic energy being converted into gravitational potential energy should the amount of energy needed to switch which pole is positive and which negative is less than that gained during the length of time the bugs reproduce and live swimming from one side to the other. One simply builds a gearing system that the bugs swim through, pushing weights out of the water, provided the bending of their cilia does not wear out before they can reproduce.
I think I understand what you're saying; I didn't understand this the first time through your post, but something farther down in your post made me think of this kind of situation anyway. So I'm glad to have it confirmed.
So basically you're modelling a human picking up a ball, and raising it above his head... but making the paramecium do it for you. Or is there more to it? Sorry if I'm saying something dumb.
So if one worked with such a process of converting between kinetic and potential energy it seems possible to design an experimental philosophy in which biokinetic energy instead is converted into mechanical energy at the expense of biopotenial energy.
Biokinetic and biopotential energies are complex, high-level energies, in my current understanding. But if I got it right, you're saying that biopotential energy (does this range from the lowest level of DNA (potential expression) to the highest level (a dormant organism) ? ) gets converted to mechanical energy via biokinetic energy (does this range from the lowest level of cell reproduction / gene expression to the highest level of an active organism?) ? So, like throwing a baseball?
And not to demean your ideas, but just wondering... is this along the same lines of "using humans as batteries" a.k.a "The Matrix" ? That would be conversion of high-level biokinetic potential energy into electrical energy, no?
Well, that's as far as I could get for now.
Ben
But working out the different views of quantum mechanics in such expts reamains to be discussed (say Born vs Bohr etc)
Brad, if this was a play on words, ... I almost laughed. Still not close enough to your "wavelength" to catch on fast enough to really laugh yet. Thanks for continuing to try I guess burberry "gets it."

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