A non theological case of ridiculous assumptions...

I don't know if I need to propose topics for the Coffee house, or if I can just post there, but that would be the proper forum for this...My disbelief about some of the things I see and hear is not limited to E vs. C issues. In general, I am beginning to think people are just getting stupider every day. My example...I am watching few minutes of the Master's Golf tourney (Colorado is under blizzard conditions, and I was channel surfing...) and I watched Tiger tee off... His ball landed with a thud, and settled onto the green.The announcer then went on to say that the force of Tigers ball landing on the green was enough to dislodge the ball of another golfer, which had been sitting just on the crest of a ridge, about 25 feet away.He was going on and on about how amazing thing that was to see. I was incredulous... Was there no better explanation? A puff of wind, vibration from the thousands of spectators in the gallery?It was a great example of an eyewitness account of an amazing event, and the eyewitness was completely convinced that his version of the events was true. Despite the obvious physical flaws in the theory, and despite any thought of more likely causes.Thankfully, after a minute of the lead announcer going on and on, the color guy chimed in that the other golfers ball was already rolling, and then proceeded to cue footage showing the other ball in motion, before Tiger's ball landed.Somehow, though, if the event had some sort of divine overtones, I think the claim would be spreading in Christian circles, but not the follow up...Citizzzen

High School AP physics remembered...The force the ball lands with is indeed directly related to the height from which it falls. But keep in mind the mass of a Golf Ball is not that much. The acceleration fore of gravity is 32 ft/second/second (or, what was it, 9.8 meters/second/second). Also, we are talking about transferring that force through dirt/sand/grass, etc.Anyway, it was an example of the kind of lack of logical deduction/knowledge of how the world works that bothers me about a lot of EvC issues. I just thought that creationists should know at least one motivation for evolutionists, a desire to reduce ignorance in all fields.Citizzzen

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Berberry,"...If you're talking about that certain gullibility that seems to go along with religious devotion then I agree..."Yes and no. I agree that Literal Fundamentalists tend to make some pretty amazing claims... (Everything from the speed of light changing speeds to account for distant stars, and George Washington being "arrow proof" because God had big plans for him...) And they repeat them to each other, so that there is this little insular society that "knows" all of the same things, and uses each other as confirmation.However, to be fair to literal fundi's, I don't think it's limited to religious adherents. Like you said, some of the products being pitched today (For weight loss, hair restoration, sexual enhancement, etc.) seem to appeal to a secular crowd. It seems like there is a growing education gap in this country, just as there is an economic gap. It's like the educated get more educated, and the less educated keep falling farther behind. In this regard, I am disturbed about the rise in people pursuing tech degrees with only core classes, and bypassing humanities, and other "liberal arts" courses. I think it's the non-major classes that round out a person's education..."...Come to my town and show me someone who believes in ghosts and is scared of pentagrams. I'll show you a born-again Christian..."I had to laugh at this... We should compare notes sometime, I am in Colorado Springs, a pretty notorious town when it comes to fundamentalist thought...Citizzzen

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"...I agree with you about the tech degrees that don't require studies in the humanities. Definitely part of the problem..."I am reminded of my old computer science days... There were a lot of programmers better than me, but sometimes they would fail a simple assignment, because they didn't understand the real word application. For example, the logic to figure payments on a loan is pretty simple, but you do need to know the principal, the interest rate, the length of the loan and the frequency of payments... If you don't understand a little bit about finance, all the programming skill in the world won't help...Citizzzen

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