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Author Topic:   Endosymbiont theory wrong?
Andya Primanda
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Message 15 of 43 (17338)
09-13-2002 5:43 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by peter borger
09-11-2002 8:39 PM


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Originally posted by peter borger:
Dear Peter,
Nobody understands the ToE at the molecular level, or any level. Why? Because evolution doesn't exist. Better name for the wat the ToE stands for would be Theory of Variation-induction (or something like that). Scientists are discovering that evolution as it was set up by the NDT-ers cannot work.

Maybe you should work together with Syamsu? He's proposing a general theory of reproduction and you're proposing a theory of variation.
Let me think for a while... some scientists had done this before in the 1940s and they come up with... NDT?

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Andya Primanda
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Message 41 of 43 (19827)
10-14-2002 4:43 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Mammuthus
10-13-2002 12:13 PM


Care to make things any more complicated? Dr. Borger's suggesting creaton morphogenetics, and I am currently interested in doing taxonomical genomics (Thanks to TB--I hope he tracks this thread).
I have seen older classifications which put the woolly mammoths (Mammuthus primigenius) as a member of genus Elephas, Elephas primigenius. Your work might be a good point to start testing TB's proposal. Maybe you & he can work together to determine if Mammuthus is in the same 'kind' with the two extant elephant species.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 43 of 43 (19832)
10-14-2002 5:14 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Mammuthus
10-14-2002 5:00 AM


As a matter of fact, I think that TB do have some sound proposal about how to define 'kinds'... its about that core genome thingy he had worked out. Or maybe we should go with his 'new protein family' scheme. Just ask his opinion about the elephants.
Anyway, how do we detect creatons? ('The Borger Particle'--he could get a Nobel out of it...people get Nobels for finding quarks and mesons and such) In a biological equivalent of supercolliders?

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