If god has a plan, then doesn't that make prayer worthless?

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Sure GOD has a plan

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Acts 2:23 is the first mention, I find, of God have a predetermined plan. Since God is devising a plan, it doesn't sound like he had a plan in place.

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GOD had planned for the person murdered to live to be 100. The murderer missed that meeting. GOD planned for the murderer to live to be 100. The murderer missed that meeting too.

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But you don't know that. It may have been the victims time to die.Does the OT speak of God having a predertermined time of death for people?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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What would be the point on praying for an outcome if god had already decided the outcome. Unless god does not have a plan, because if god is omnipotent, all powerful, and infallible, then truly his plan cannot be changed based on the desires of a mere mortal.

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In the Bible there are three kinds of prayer: Prayers of Praise, Prayers of Thanks, and Prayers of Request.Obviously your thread is dealing with prayers of request. I've notice that many who are answering you are avoiding your main point.

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3. God has a plan and can effect outcomes, choosing to do so partially on prayer, but he is not omnipotent, all powerful, and infallible so his plan may be altered by the actions of mortals, and he counters this by answering prayers.

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The OT God seems to have a general plan as outlined roughly in the 10 commandments. Worship God, don't kill, steal, etc. It doesn't seem to present a God who is a micromanager determining ahead of time all the tiny details of mankind (death, birth, etc.)Moses and Lot both asked God to alter His actions and God did.The NT seems to start the predetermination scenerio.If God has a general plan and can effect outcomes, does that necessarily rule out that he is omnipotent or infallible?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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One of the following MUST be true

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Unfortunately we don't know which one IS true.BTW, omnipotent means all powerful. Are you wanting to include omniscient, which means all knowing?IOW, omnipotent (all powerful), omniscient (all knowing), and infallible.If you include omniscient in your statements, then the Bible supports that God did not have an all inclusive plan and limited omniscience. An all-knowing-down-to-the-minute-details God would not have an anger response because he already knew what was going to happen.So in choice number 2, his omniscience would be limited to a general overview along with his plan.What do you think?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France