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RAZD
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Message 26 of 50 (242306)
09-11-2005 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by PaulK
09-11-2005 5:46 PM


Re: Common language
the tendency for languages to diverge is a fact
More to the point you can develop a tree of languages that show divergences similar to those of {culture/race/ethnic backgrounds} and that the divergence is on the same timeline as these changes.
This leads to the conclusion that either the Tower of Babel never happened or it was when the first language split into two different forms, which would hardly fit the picture of every person speaking a different tongue.

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Message 28 of 50 (242317)
09-11-2005 6:50 PM
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09-11-2005 6:20 PM


Re: Common language
No
We can assume that those who did the artwork in the Lascaux caves and others in S. France were operating with some form of communication
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en/
But we can't be sure that other bands used the same means.
We can also assume that those who worked together to make tools in what is now Tanzania were operating with some form of communication
Homo habilis - Wikipedia
But we can't be sure that other bands used the same means.
What we can do is look at the common features in all the existant languages and build a {grammatical\phonetic\etc} tree similar to the way genomic trees are constructed, and find that the result bears a remarkable reflection of the same tree based on {cultural\ethnic\racial} developments, even factoring cross-fertilizing between groups that interact (at both levels).
I read a fascinating article on it but have lost my reference.

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Message 35 of 50 (242370)
09-11-2005 10:56 PM
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09-11-2005 7:27 PM


Re: Common language
If I remember my lost article correctly there could have been 3 or 4 "original" dialects, ways of speaking so different that they point to independent formation. Certainly the "click" languages fall in this category, and then there are the musical elements of chinese that change the meanings of words that seems similar to western ears.
But by and large there is evidence of a tree of development that matches the {cultural\ethnic\racial} heritage -- including cross-fertilizations.
ben's wikipedia link in Message 33 gives a good overview of the field the lost article was in.

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