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Is God determined to allow no proof or evidence of his existence? Part II

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DominionSeraph
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Message 33 of 171 (249631)
10-06-2005 8:59 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
06-12-2005 9:22 AM

Mr. Ex Nihilo writes:
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http://www.apparitions.org/pictures/zeitun.gif
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That's not even a good fake. Perspective and shading are off for the left 2/3rds of the top of the building.
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Message 34 of 171 (249632)
10-06-2005 9:07 PM 		Reply to: Message 32 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
10-05-2005 1:30 AM

Mr. Ex Nihilo writes:
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I guess the basic idea that I was trying to get across is that the idea of God being determined to allow no proof or evidence of his existence seems to be a logical fallacy to some extent.
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The idea is fine. Supporting it, however, is another story.
If we add in the typical assertion that God always gets what he wants, having support for it would be a logical contradiction.
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10-31-2005 5:21 PM 		Reply to: Message 35 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
10-07-2005 1:34 AM

Mr. Ex Nihilo writes:
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Go tell that to the thousands that saw her there -- some using spotlights by the way.
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I didn't say that it couldn't be an artist's rendition of an actual event. It's just not an actual picture of the event, as the top of the building was drawn in.
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DominionSeraph
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10-31-2005 5:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 36 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
10-07-2005 2:13 AM

Mr. Ex Nihilo writes:
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Typical assertion?
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Yes. It follows from, "God is perfect;" and I wouldn't call that atypical.
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That's a very strange assertion you've made -- especially since, at least according to the Christian Scriptures, God wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth -- and yet, again according to the Christian Scriptures, some will have their whole body to be thrown into hell.
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I'm fairly sure that the people going to hell are the ones who are not saved. Right?
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Apparently God doesn't always gets what he wants now does he?
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If so, if God is the creator of everything, then God is necessarily imperfect.
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