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Tusko
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Message 39 of 42 (259035)
11-12-2005 6:03 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Silent H
11-04-2005 6:20 AM


Re: Detecting design.
Assuming that design could be detected, surely there would be a problem with this - since, using ID logic, everything is designed (either by God or by man) it wouldn't be possible to tell anything apart from anything else. Everything would test positive for design,
and we would be back where we started.
In this way, theory of ID would only be of utility if some life wasn't designed, and if there wasn't a superpowerful intelligent designer.
Whoops for all those Christian IDers!
Sorry if someone has already made this point.

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Tusko
Member (Idle past 131 days)
Posts: 615
From: London, UK
Joined: 10-01-2004


Message 41 of 42 (259073)
11-12-2005 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by nwr
11-12-2005 9:23 AM


Re: Everything is designed
Thank you so much (flushes with pleasure).
However, I didn't phrase that so well. I think it's actually the case that no Christian IDer could ever use the argument that ID could be useful to sort life that has been designed from that which has arisen by natural processes.
Although he may believe snowflakes can arise from natural processes, Dembski is pretty clear that no life can arise in this way. So any speculation that ID could be useful in detecting designed life and distinguishing it from undesigned life would be verboten for any Christ-lovin' IDer.
[edit for spelling]
[edit to hopefully increase clarity]
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