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Larni
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Message 7 of 21 (263676)
11-28-2005 5:11 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by ???
11-25-2005 9:53 PM


I feel for you mate, I had to put up with C of E bullshit when I was at school. We had some old Cannon come in every tuesday and shout at us about being godley. I knew then it was bunkum.
I think though that it's the people who are the problem, not religion. If people keep there religious views to themselves and don't bring them into school fine. If young people get this crap rammed down their throats I get kind of mad. We should teach science to young people. Not fill their heads with fantasy as fact.
It even worse when religion gets re packaged as Intelligent Design.
EVC is good place to be to see both sides of our nature, the logical abd the mythical.

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Larni
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Message 9 of 21 (263732)
11-28-2005 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by ramoss
11-28-2005 9:42 AM


I feel the need to argue with you there mate, I went to a UK state school where the religion taught was Church of England. In some countries we have no choice of what school we are entered into.
Also, as a young person we typically have no say on what school we get sent to. To say that it was a 'choice' to go to that school could (and in my case was)be in error.
And another thing, reacting violently because of belief is no excuse. If I say that I don't hold the espoused beliefs of the institution I study at I would expect to be treated with respect for that view point, not treated like a villain.
ED: Poor spleeling from wasting time in RE lessions
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Larni
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Message 11 of 21 (263755)
11-28-2005 11:56 AM
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11-28-2005 10:32 AM


Re: A matter of perspective
Hello Phat, as ever your response is most thoughtful. I think that the perspective is not the problem, it's the promogulation that is. On that enigmatic note I realise I have to go home. Will get back with a better response soon.
P.S. I will have to remember I can't hide behind science in this room

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Larni
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Message 14 of 21 (264377)
11-30-2005 4:02 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by ramoss
11-28-2005 12:52 PM


Suffer in silence
Take your point, it is valid, but what a poor look out for diversity in people if institutional pressure churns out clones, year after year. If there were no church schools this situation would not occur. There would be no sanctioning based on religion.
I was talking to my girl friend about not having religious schools at all but to mandate that EVERY religion had to be taught to ALL children equally. If you were raised with all the religions in your consciouseness and religion was truly a matter of choice, you could appreciate more the choice of others with differing views.
I appreciate that this is pie in the sky for many differing reasons, but I reckon that most of us believe what we know about. That is to say, who can believe in any god unless they are taught about it?

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Larni
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Message 17 of 21 (264670)
12-01-2005 7:04 AM
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11-30-2005 10:35 AM


Re: Suffer in silence
Then I would have to say you have had a good start in life. If the OP author expressed his views at your school, would he have recieved similar treatment?

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Larni
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Message 19 of 21 (264692)
12-01-2005 8:42 AM
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12-01-2005 7:33 AM


Re: Suffer in silence
Thanks for the link! Will have a read of it. May take a while, only got net access at work, grrrr, damn patients!

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