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John
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Message 3 of 40 (25057)
11-30-2002 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by TrueCreation
11-23-2002 9:35 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Budikka:
Indeed, your entire vapor canopy argument (whatever it is), is meaningless if you are culling all your water from melted ice caps as you appear to be doing in the present argument.
I've been thinking about this ice cap issue, and wish to propose a solution.
Lets assume, first, that the ice caps pre-flood contained enough water to cover the earth. God, obviously, would have created them adequately for His purposes. Now, with not much thought it is apparent that these ice caps would have been enormous. Large enough, in fact, to deform the planet into something of a pancake shape. Here, we see evidence in scripture that such was the case. The world is, after all, described as something of a disk. We do have the problem however, that this scenario puts mesopotamia on the edge of the pancake so to speak. This, I believe, can be rectified with scripture by noting that the earth is also described as a circle-- obviously a reference to the extreme curvature of the earth in the regions of mesopotamia. At the appropriate moment, God caused millions of meteors to impact the earth, melting the ice sheets. Most hit the sheets directly but a few hit other regions, for what divine purpose it is not known. He also choose to mark the moon with craters as a testament to these great events. These massive ice caps melted catastrophically and the waters flowed over the earth. Such an event would so radically shift the gravitation center of the earth and weight distribution that the planet would flex into its now nearly global shape. However, before settling into a permanent state one would expect it to churn and wiggle like a water drop in zero-G. This intense geological activity is the source of our extant mountain ranges. Also note that this occilation would have been intense enough to through much of the water, once held in the ice caps, right off the planet. This flung-off water, perhaps being captured by Jupiter, thereby forming the moon of Europa. A further problem is also solved. This ejected water would carry away most of the heat generted by the meteor impacts.
I believe this to be an acceptable solution. Thank you all for joining me here today.
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John
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Message 5 of 40 (25073)
11-30-2002 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Brian
11-30-2002 2:08 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Brian Johnston:
Maybe you should copyright this before Kent Hovind plagarises it for his next 'lecture'.
I think maybe I'll publish and go on a lecture tour myself. Do creationist have groupies? I wonder.....
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John
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Message 8 of 40 (25092)
11-30-2002 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Randy
11-30-2002 7:46 PM


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Originally posted by Randy:
John,
You forgot something important from your post. You left out the following essential statement.
If this message has been a blessing to you please send a donation
Otherwise its great just don't forget the most important part again!
Randy

arrrrgggggghhhhh...... how right you are!!!
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John
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Message 30 of 40 (26601)
12-14-2002 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by edge
12-14-2002 3:09 PM


quote:
Originally posted by edge:
Ahermatypic corals are found in deep cold waters.
Interesting that ahermatypic corals do not build reefs. This doesn't explain the survival of corals that do build reefs.
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John
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Message 33 of 40 (26625)
12-14-2002 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by TrueCreation
12-14-2002 9:40 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"Interesting that ahermatypic corals do not build reefs."
--Well the definition of 'ahermatypic' is the inverse of hermatypic isn't it? [A hermatypic coral is a reef-forming coral]

LOL..... Why didn't you quote the second sentence in my post? The one that points out that the survival of ahermatypic coral doesn't explain the survival of HERMATYPIC or REEF BUILDING coral. And, as far as I can tell, the division between hermatypic and ahermatypic is more properly the presence of symbiotic zooxanthaellae not, despite the name, the fact that the coral does or does not build reefs.
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John
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Message 35 of 40 (26629)
12-14-2002 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by TrueCreation
12-14-2002 11:30 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
There are hermatypic and ahermatypic scleractinian corals. The hermatypic types are found in warm tropic ocean waters. There is more in my response to edge.
But not much more. You have hermatypic corals, which build reefs. These are very sensitive to light levels, fresh water, temperature and turbidity. There are ahermatypic corals which do not build reefs. These are not as sensitive to the environments in which they live. Assuming the latter could survive the flood, how does this account for the presence of the former? It doesn't. You seem to be saying that since ahermatypic corals could survive the flood ( which I doubt ), then all corals could survive. It doesn't make sense. Its like throwing a hundred people off a boat and arguing that since some of them can swim, all of them will survive.
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