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RAZD
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Message 196 of 300 (275907)
01-04-2006 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by macaroniandcheese
01-04-2006 9:09 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
the only time you use bandwidth is when downloading new modules and uploading results. the rest of the time it is all just time on your machine alone. {abe}this would be the same usage as general surfing and downloading other things (images on pages, etc) {/abe}

this does tend to leave modules vulnerable, as in when a system crashes all the data on that module is lost. as jar pointed out, there is redundancy built into the master program (on the servers, that distribute the modules) so that ones that don't get returned are reassigned to other machines.

of course you could also work to sign up the other users as well :D

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 197 of 300 (275917)
01-04-2006 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by RAZD
01-04-2006 9:56 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
i dunno. something about letting random people use my machine just screams vulnerability to me. i can't afford to replace my machine.
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RAZD
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Message 198 of 300 (275922)
01-04-2006 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by macaroniandcheese
01-04-2006 10:28 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
um ... as noted before ...

you already do. people who wrote the software are controlling how it is used. companies that provide updated {software\data\patches} are automatically rewriting what your machine uses.

you are probably more vulnerable by having any microsoft product on your machine than by loading this one -- because ms is a common target and is notorious for having backdoors and problems. the recent issue about wmf files is a case in point.

if you are really paranoid on this issue then research is the way to go: there are sites that list virus and malware types and you can search them for this programs vulnerability

this site lists hoaxes: http://vil.mcafee.com/hoax.asp

this site lists viruses: http://vil.nai.com/vil/default.asp

I did a search on there with these results:

Results for 'worldcommunitygrid.org'
Search took 0.02 seconds.
Your search - worldcommunitygrid.org - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "worldcommunitygrid.org".

and

Results for 'fightAIDS@home'
Search took 0.02 seconds.
Your search - fightAIDS@home - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "fightAIDS@home".

and

Results for 'Proteome Folding'
Search took 0.02 seconds.
Your search - Proteome Folding - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "Proteome Folding".

I don't claim this as exclusive in any way, but I also did a search based on microsooft word with this result:

Results for 'microsoft word'
Results 1 - 10 of about 1150. Search took 0.15 seconds

And it then proceeds to list all 1150 (and counting) of the viruses that are associated with that software.

Do you use word? Feel safer?


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docpotato
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Message 199 of 300 (276039)
01-05-2006 11:14 AM


I joined
this is cool. I'm in.
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jar
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Message 200 of 300 (276045)
01-05-2006 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by docpotato
01-05-2006 11:14 AM


Re: I joined
Fantastic sir. We need more great folk like you to help out.


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Dan Carroll
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Message 201 of 300 (276050)
01-05-2006 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Asgara
01-03-2006 11:40 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
Would any of the non-members care to discuss why they are not joining?

1) I just got around to reading this thread, so I've known about this for a sum total of about ten minutes.

2) My only internet access is at work. If I install a program from some website on my computer that eats memory and bandwidth, I will be fired. It will not matter if I patiently explain that it's for a good cause, or that there is memory and bandwidth to spare, or that really it's not just "some website"... I'll still be fired.


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jar
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Message 202 of 300 (276057)
01-05-2006 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Dan Carroll
01-05-2006 12:03 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
An absolutely valid point.

I will suggest that depending on your situation, you might consider a memo to the brass at your workplace. Here are a few key points:


  • The project uses almost no bandwidth. The only time bandwidth comes into play is the short time involved in down loading the task to be worked on and during uploading the results when finished.

  • Computation is a background process and only uses free cycles. Like a screensaver, it does not interfere with applications running.

  • If either computation time or bandwidth are an issue, the program allows them to be independantly and individually scheduled. For example, it can be configured to run only at night or on weekends.

  • A complete record of activity is kept and depending on location, may well qualify as a Chraitable Contribution for tax purposes.

If your position makes it possible, please consider talking to your company about adding all of their machines to the grid. It is a win-win situation, good for them and good for all mankind.


Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Parasomnium
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Message 203 of 300 (276062)
01-05-2006 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Dan Carroll
01-05-2006 12:03 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
Dan's Clever Alias writes:

If I install a program from some website on my computer that eats memory and bandwidth, I will be fired.

Sometimes a sacrifice has to be made, Dan. Look at it this way: you'll get fired, you'll have to sell your house, you'll have to live on the street, where eventually you end up in the gutter, eating road kill and cockroaches. You'll find a used syringe that you stick into your arm to inject the heroin you have bought with your last money. And that's only the good news. The bad news is that you'll contract HIV and you'll die. But another piece of good news is that the one block of data your computer at work was able to finish before it was detected by the system administrator contained the miracle cure for HIV. You won't have died in vain.


Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 204 of 300 (276068)
01-05-2006 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by Parasomnium
01-05-2006 12:52 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
But I'm scared of needles. Instead of jabbing myself with a dirty syringe, could I contract HIV by turning unprotected tricks in a back alley for enough change to buy a Big Mac?

Cuz... y'know, in that case, game on.


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Message 205 of 300 (276085)
01-05-2006 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Dan Carroll
01-05-2006 1:18 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
tricks in a back alley

Think it has to be in your back alley!

Brian.


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RAZD
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Message 206 of 300 (276151)
01-05-2006 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by docpotato
01-05-2006 11:14 AM


Re: I joined
Welcome to the team DoctorHot. We'll be teaming with results soon eh?


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TechnoCore
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Message 207 of 300 (276225)
01-05-2006 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Asgara
01-03-2006 11:40 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
I've just got myself a new computer, and im in the process of over-clocking it... alot.
So i just need e few days to find out at what speed and memory settings it runs perfectly stable. Otherwise the results I'm sending back will do more harm than good ;)
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RAZD
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Message 208 of 300 (276240)
01-05-2006 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by TechnoCore
01-05-2006 9:23 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
welcome to the team when you get "settled" ...

results so far:


Members 25 (#330)(Rank)
Current Members 25
Retired Members 0
Total Run Time (y;d:h:m:s) 1:198:19:11:47 (#1,239)(Rank)
Points Generated 320,167 (#1,310)(Rank)
Results Returned 1,396 (#1,283)(Rank)


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RAZD
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Message 209 of 300 (276524)
01-06-2006 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by RAZD
01-05-2006 10:19 PM


Team is still cranking out results!

Members (Rank) 25 (#332)
Current Members 25
Retired Members 0
Total Run Time (y;d:h:m:s) (Rank) 1:217:10:16:49 (#1,210)
Points Generated (Rank) 330,428 (#1,276)
Results Returned (Rank) 1,438 (#1,254)

That's 42 results in one 24 hour period people.


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pink sasquatch
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Message 210 of 300 (276621)
01-07-2006 2:37 AM
Reply to: Message 187 by Asgara
01-03-2006 11:40 PM


Re: Wondering Why NOT More Members?
Would any of the non-members care to discuss why they are not joining?

My reason: No Macs allowed.

Unless I'm missing something...


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