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Matt P
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Message 13 of 147 (278680)
01-13-2006 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by jar
01-13-2006 12:27 PM


Geometry in part, but also Cepheid variables
In the 1780s William Herschel observed all of the stars around our solar system and determined their distances. From this, he determined that we were at the center of the galaxy, as stellar density seemed to be homogeneous throughout the sky. Unfortunately, Herschel didn't realize that there was a large cloud of dark dust blocking our view of the center of the galaxy. Once infrared and radio astronomy became available, scientists in the 1960s penetrated this cloud and saw a slew of stars at the galactic center.
The distance to the galactic center was determined mostly by use of Cepheid variable stars, through the work of R.J.Trumpler:
Cepheid variable - Wikipedia
which are a "standard candle" for astronomy. To summarize this article, cepheid variables have a specific periodicity to their variance in luminosity, and by determining the period of a Cepheid variable, astronomers determine its suspected luminosity. Since luminosity correlates with distance, one can determine the distance to a Cepheid variable through this method.
Trumpler used Cepheid variable stars to determine the distance to globular clusters surrounding the galaxy and saw that they weren't distributed in the pattern we would expect if we were at the center of the galaxy, but were consistent with being off the center.
Later work with other wavelengths of life confirmed this.

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Matt P
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From: Tampa FL
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Message 17 of 147 (278701)
01-13-2006 2:45 PM
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01-13-2006 1:29 PM


Re: Geometry in part, but also Cepheid variables
You're right about light/life- that's what I get for studying biochem right before talking about astronomy!
I've seen estimates for the position of the sun's place in the galaxy from 23,000 to 28,000 light years. Extrapolating the same error to the total size of the galaxy, I would assume it's about 100,000 +- 5,000 light years. Note that this is for the visible galaxy, and doesn't include the proposed dark matter halo, and stuff of that sort.

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