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Evopeach
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Message 198 of 238 (287264)
02-16-2006 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by sidelined
02-16-2006 9:50 AM


Re: Going back off topic
You called him a hack and a fraud. The record stands and your lack of credibility is fully accounted for.
I would never ask for an apology to me from anyone on this forum and if given would not be accepted.

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Evopeach
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Message 200 of 238 (287278)
02-16-2006 10:22 AM
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02-16-2006 10:01 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Was there some actual information in your post? I thought gibberish was forbidden here.
I'm not your son, friend, acquaintance or anything else so stow your condecension.

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Evopeach
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Message 204 of 238 (287326)
02-16-2006 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Percy
02-16-2006 10:28 AM


Re: Going back off topic
I was hoping for consistency; but alas in prior posts you and others demand references ( why would you ask for them unless you wanted to read them) and now references are ver botin as unwanted reading assignments. Its really rather humorous.

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Evopeach
Member (Idle past 6643 days)
Posts: 224
From: Stroud, OK USA
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Message 206 of 238 (287340)
02-16-2006 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by sidelined
02-16-2006 1:24 PM


Re: Going back off topic
Of course it is !! LOL!! I see a few people picked up on your hypocrisy and you're sqirming.

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Evopeach
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Message 213 of 238 (287596)
02-17-2006 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 212 by nator
02-17-2006 10:17 AM


Re: Going back off topic
I just remembered looking through Origin of the Species and not seeing anything more mathmatical that measuring finch beaks.
Did I miss the calculus,diff eq , complex variable, vetor and tensor analysis and approximate methods... what page are those on.

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Evopeach
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Message 215 of 238 (287599)
02-17-2006 10:33 AM
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02-17-2006 10:31 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Here are a few of the many peer reviewed research papers published by the FRAUD.
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Evopeach
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Message 218 of 238 (287604)
02-17-2006 10:41 AM
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02-17-2006 10:34 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Math is used in various absrruce forms (see Pregorine) to prop up a subjective set of tenents.
Evolution works in reverse of truly great science in that an objective and mathmatical formulation is used to capture tand demonstrate the theory and then experimentation and empirical observation follows.
Or do you actually believe Newton sat under the apple tree and Galileo climbed the Tower first.

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Evopeach
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Message 219 of 238 (287609)
02-17-2006 10:45 AM
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02-17-2006 10:36 AM


Re: Going back off topic
ONce he became a creationist formally by employment he was blackballed from any evolutionary publication as is everyone else.
Are you saying he was once a talented, well educated, productive and useful scientist but upon becoming a creationist he bacame a useless, moron.
Life has phases each of which has its validity.

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Evopeach
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From: Stroud, OK USA
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Message 221 of 238 (287627)
02-17-2006 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 220 by Omnivorous
02-17-2006 11:03 AM


Re: Of course observation comes first
So the theory of relativity was originally:
I was watching some energy and mass interchange in my back yard and the idea that sunlight made it possible for me to see led me to E=mc**2
Later that week I felt the sudden impusle of gravity waves and the pelting of gravitons and the time seemed to shrink while my ruler was alternately lenghthening and shrinking before my very eyes.
I was totally bent and warped out of shape by the observations and immediately started to think how I could possibly express these observations in mathmatical terms.

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Evopeach
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Message 227 of 238 (287719)
02-17-2006 2:52 PM
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02-17-2006 2:21 PM


Re: Of course observation comes first
The curvature of light by gravitation/mass was not shown or even possible to observe in an experimental setting until years after he published the prediction when the perihelian og Mercuty could be observed and analyzed in detail.
Nice try but no banana.

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Evopeach
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From: Stroud, OK USA
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Message 228 of 238 (287722)
02-17-2006 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by nator
02-17-2006 1:59 PM


Re: Going back off topic
Which includes the defeated pseudo-scientists (alias for evolutionists) he debated for thirty years prior to his retirement.
Einstein spent less than 5%of his worklife in a lab and Hawkings even less yet they are considered 1st class scientists... theoretical physicists.
Gish read prodigiously, maintained his scientific societal memberships and wrote a number of books on his views all with impeccible footnotes and references.
The CRSQ web site is easily searched for peer reviewed Creationist rResearch papers and projects and that is up to you.

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Evopeach
Member (Idle past 6643 days)
Posts: 224
From: Stroud, OK USA
Joined: 08-03-2005


Message 232 of 238 (287812)
02-17-2006 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by nator
02-17-2006 5:23 PM


Re: Going back off topic
I thought profanity was a no-no at this forum... I guess that only applies to the intelleigent, rational and logical posts.. that leaves you out.
Gish made a conscious decision based on convictions to use his gifts in a second career. That hardly obviates his previous contributions, intellect, prowess or work product.
What of significance did Einstein puiblish in any peer reviewed journal after 1940... little if anything of consequence. Did that make him a fraud,liar,miscreant and useless pseudo scientist?
You logic is laughable.

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Evopeach
Member (Idle past 6643 days)
Posts: 224
From: Stroud, OK USA
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Message 233 of 238 (287821)
02-17-2006 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by ramoss
02-17-2006 5:29 PM


Re: Going back off topic
First of all you are a liar and ill informed concerning the footprint deal which was recanted twenty years ago publically by the entire ICR staff.
Second the moom dust article is old hat and not in any new material that I am aware of.
Third the precambrian includes the 600 million years of no fossil evidence preceeding the complex invertebrates. If you think mud trails without a single organic molecule constitute fossil evidence for precambrian life leading up to say a mollusk, a sponge or a trilobyte have at it.
Not one of these so called supposed fossils has any ancestral relationship to the complex invertebrates. They are isolated and apart from the cambrian fossils having no possible evolutionary connection.
Desperation is the last bastion of ignorance.

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Evopeach
Member (Idle past 6643 days)
Posts: 224
From: Stroud, OK USA
Joined: 08-03-2005


Message 236 of 238 (287895)
02-17-2006 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by NosyNed
02-17-2006 7:41 PM


Re: Precambrian
Your assertions and ad hominems mean nothing to someone who hs been studying this subject since 1974. Of couse you could provide some evidentiary staements and then you could elevate your credibility above pure sophistry.

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