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Message 96 of 238 (285222)
02-09-2006 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Evopeach
02-09-2006 9:17 AM


DNA isn't the issue
I think, if you know jack squat about the subject, you would know that chemists don't thing the first life was DNA based. Therefore you shoud drop references to it.

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Message 97 of 238 (285225)
02-09-2006 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Evopeach
02-09-2006 9:13 AM


Time spans
How quickly did the evolutionary mechanism get from a very high error rate to the near perfect current error rate?
As at least Percy has pointed out life spent nearly 3 billion years before significant multicellular life arose. So "how quickly" is probably answerable with a time span of many 100's of millions of years.
With generation times measured in hours and days (if current life is a measure) how many individual different trails were there between the first imperfect replicator and the trilobite?

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Message 98 of 238 (285228)
02-09-2006 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by U can call me Cookie
02-09-2006 9:38 AM


Re: mutation rate
Thus, on average, mutation rate is substantially lower than the estimate you provided.
Is that "lower" or "higher"?
If 1 in a billion is the number you are critisizing and calling 10E-9. Then 10E-3 is a higher rate of mutations isn't it?

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Message 99 of 238 (285229)
02-09-2006 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Evopeach
02-09-2006 10:52 AM


Unobservable past
You seem to be very quick to make firm, even dogmatic, statements about this "unobservable" past. On what basis do you do that?

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Message 173 of 238 (286617)
02-14-2006 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 171 by Evopeach
02-14-2006 5:16 PM


Sig Figs
basic significant figures knowledge
You've just demonstrated that you don't have the above.

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Message 177 of 238 (286628)
02-14-2006 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by cavediver
02-14-2006 5:43 PM


degree
Really? Absolute crap. Where do you get your maths degree?
Shhhhh Cavediver. It has been obvious for sometime that a large fraction of what EP says isn't true. Don't get into that; it is fun as it is.

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Message 235 of 238 (287892)
02-17-2006 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Evopeach
02-17-2006 5:42 PM


Precambrian
Third the precambrian includes the 600 million years of no fossil evidence preceeding the complex invertebrates. If you think mud trails without a single organic molecule constitute fossil evidence for precambrian life leading up to say a mollusk, a sponge or a trilobyte have at it.
A statement based on your ignorance. Which makes :
Desperation is the last bastion of ignorance.
That much more amusing.
Evopeach, you need to get something very clear. We know that you have pretty much no *clue* what you are talking about. You know nothing about the subjects being discussed.
You make pronouncements about "fact" but don't actually know a darned thing.

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