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Author Topic:   Plate tectonics, mountain building, and the Flood
LRP
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Message 3 of 159 (29245)
01-16-2003 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by John Solum
01-15-2003 5:16 PM


According to the Bible a near circular supercontinent (called 'Earth' in the Bible but probably 'Pangaea' by mainstream scientists) was formed a long time (several thousand of years)before
the time of the first known (biblically) man. Again according to scriptures this supercontinent was formed in a single day as the result of a crashed planetissimal. Prior to this crash the Earth had its shell of basaltic rock (now recognized as 'the plates') which the bible calls 'the foundations'. The spread out crashed planetissimal remained near circular but subject to oscillations in and out of the global ocean that then covered the planet. The last oscillation out of the global ocean (again according to the bible) was only about 6000 years ago. This supercontinet did not break up
until 120 years or so after the Flood-again according to the bible.
The breaking up of the plates are also referred to in the Bible-centuries before man discovered this.
To understand why the superconinent had to be formed in the way it was and subsequently broke up is a very long story. I have had it published for anyone that may be interested

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Message 5 of 159 (29270)
01-16-2003 2:12 PM
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01-16-2003 9:53 AM


Genesis is not the only book in the Bible which deals with creation matters. As a biblical creationist I put as much importance on the other scriptures as I put on Genesis.
No I am not a day age person. Nor am I a traditioinal YEC or OEC but I do believe the earth was fairly recently put together using some extremely old material.
The story I tell about the Earth's creation in my book is indeed a long one-I managed to keep it to 288 pages but it could have been twice as long. It is long because I start at the very beginning of the Universe itself and then trace out the development of the Solar Nebula from which our Solar System eventually formed. An intermediate stage in the formation of the Solar System was the formation of hundreds if not thousands of planetisssimals which eventually reduced in number as they aggregated into planets. There are on other planets examples of 'crashed planetissimals' which I mention in my book.
The effects of a collision between a planetissimal and the Earth is very much a factor of the approach direction and velocity. Obviously a head on collision would completely destroy the offending planettisimal but if the approach direction is almost tangential the planetissimal will inflict a galancing blow at first and then skim on the earths surface breaking up as it did so to form a near circular deposit of its contents. The precise nature of the contents we can now determine but it is also predictable from the theory I have used to explain how the Solar System was formed and why the planets have the structure and composition that they do.
I know mainstream science tells us that the plates move and carry with it the continental crust. My theory proposes that the plates are in very slow movement now because of residual frictional and gravitational effects of the crashed planetissimal. Hence I can easily see why the Bible tells us that the pre Flood supercontinent did break up some years after the flood by parts simply sliding off rather than being carried as if by conveyor belt. The mid Atlantic ocean ridge is in my opinion a tearing of the basaltic shell caused by land masses moving east and west by gravitational forces.
I would love to quote the relevant scriptures here but then our arguement may centre on my interpretation of scripture against yours or somebody elses. When it comes to interpretation scripture it is my belief that it very much depends on what guiding spirit we have within us. So I have stated my interpretation but do not expect others to come up with the same interpretation (although many have written to me to say they have)
I hope this answers your queries.

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LRP
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Message 9 of 159 (29286)
01-16-2003 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by John Solum
01-16-2003 3:26 PM


quote:
Originally posted by John Solum:
Hello LRP,
One of the problems with your idea is that the history of the continents does not begin with Pangea; Pangea formed in the latter part of the Paleozoic Era. I'd be interested to see how you account for the pre-Pangea history of the earth, such as I discussed in the first message in this thread.

It seems a little odd to me that if you join up all the present continents it forms a good circular land mass with Jerusalem almost at the centre. Now if mainstream science decrees that there were continents before Pangaea where have they gone to now? Subducted perhaps under a plate? If so whence came the continents that made up Pangaea? I still have not been able to find a convincing theory for the origin of the continents-hence I will hold on to what the Bible says on this problem. So no I cannot account for the pre Pangaea history of the Earth. The idea of a crashed planetissimal as the origin of the first and only supercontinent is simple and logical.
The actual structure of this planetissimal before the crash may account for some of the features that have led Geologists to believe in pre Pangaea continents.

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Message 10 of 159 (29288)
01-16-2003 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by shilohproject
01-16-2003 2:46 PM


In the absence of scripture quotes we have nothing to base an assessment of your arguement on other than a traditional understanding of either scripture or science.
Also interesting: would a guiding spirit (Holy Spirit?) lead differant people to differant conclusions on a matter of historical fact?
Help us understand your reasoning. Provide the scriptural cites for your position. Thanks.
-Shiloh
You ask too much of me to answer all these points in this forum.
Please send me a fowarding address so that I can send you a free copy of my book which hopefully will answer these questions. You can then read it at leisure and bin it afterwards if you dont approve of whatI say! Send it to LRP@newnet.co.uk

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LRP
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Message 20 of 159 (29412)
01-17-2003 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by John
01-17-2003 12:04 PM


... the request that you provide references.
All the explanations with appropriate references from the bible and science are given in my book 'Before the First Day' http://www.btinternet.com/~pimenta/ . I will be happy to send you a free complimentary copy if you wish.
You are rather hedgy about telling us exactly what you are though.
Sorry. In simple terms I am a Bible believing Christian but
Not a YEC because they defend a non biblical and non scientific doctrine of instantaneous ex nihilo creation.
Not a OEC because they seem to ignore many relevant scriptures
in order to keep their mainstream scientist members happy
Not a day age creationist because I do not see God requiring thousands or millions of years to do some finishing touches to a creation he began before the first day of the Genesis account.
I am a scientist and geotechnical engineer by profession and can see in scriptures scientific truths where others see poetry or myth or nothing.
quote:
It is long because I start at the very beginning of the Universe itself and then trace out the development of the Solar Nebula from which our Solar System eventually formed.
Interesting. And all of this is in the Bible is it?
No ofcourse not. God reveals the marvels of his creation in scriptures as well as through science. But the two give clues to the same story.
quote:
There are on other planets examples of 'crashed planetissimals' which I mention in my book.
There is orbitting the Earth just such an example as well.
Yes and other planets have many moons any of which could be knocked of its orbit and on to the planet itself.
quote:
if the approach direction is almost tangential the planetissimal will inflict a galancing blow at first and then skim on the earths surface breaking up as it did so to form a near circular deposit of its contents.
No it wouldn't. A glancing blow is more likely to throw stuff into space, not to deposit it in a circle. You are going to get a crater, not a continent.
Yes and no. The 'crater' in this case in my opinion is defined by the 'ring of fire' round the Pacific Ocean.
The planetissimal plunged into the 4000m deep(average) global ocean and being composed partly of ice, granitic rock minerals and sediments of all kinds it broke up some distance from its point of initial contact.
quote:
The precise nature of the contents we can now determine but it is also predictable from the theory I have used to explain how the Solar System was formed and why the planets have the structure and composition that they do.
What?
Yes thats exactly what I mean. My theory for the formation of the Solar System describes the nature of sediment distribution in what I call the planetary disc. So it is easy to see why each planet has the composition that scientist tell us they have.
quote:
My theory proposes that the plates are in very slow movement now because of residual frictional and gravitational effects of the crashed planetissimal.
They should be slowing down then and at a detectable pace. Can you show this?
No. We have been measuring plate movements for only about 40 years.
Maybe in another 40 we will know the answer.
quote:
Hence I can easily see why the Bible tells us that the pre Flood supercontinent did break up some years after the flood by parts simply sliding off rather than being carried as if by conveyor belt.
It stands to reason that if you place a small piece of well chewed chewing gum on a wet egg it will be easy to slide it about on the egg. Magnify this idea a few billion times and you have a supercontinent sliding about on a highly lubricated surface. The egg shell in this case is the basaltic lithosphere and the driving mechanism is simply differences in level of the lubricated surface.
quote:
The mid Atlantic ocean ridge is in my opinion a tearing of the basaltic shell caused by land masses moving east and west by gravitational forces.
What gravitational forces?
See above but my book goes into this in more detail. In particular the asthenosphere that lies below the basaltic lithosphere is the origin of level differences and isostacy.
So you won't back up your claims then?
OK just one scripture for the formation of the supercontinent.
Psalm 24:2
All the scientific facts I have used in my theory have come from standard textbooks in Geology and Astronomy. I simply give a different interpretation of these facts coupled with some collaboration from the scriptures. But scriptures are not at all essential for the theory. It is unfortunate how 'theory' in peoples minds become 'truths' For this reason I dont expect many to be open minded enough to consider alternatives to what they have become used to.

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LRP
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Message 26 of 159 (29468)
01-18-2003 3:34 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by John
01-17-2003 7:35 PM


The offer for a free copy of my book is still open. Just send me an e mail LRP@newnet.co.uk with an address to foward it to.
In response to your comments about the supercontinent being a crashed planetissimal let me be a little more specific.
Before the formation of any land mass the Earth had to have a covering of water with an average depth of around 4000m. This is about the quantity of water present on the Earth today in our oceans.
My theory for the sudden appearance of a land mass that covered about a third of the earth's surface is that this was the result of a crashed planetissimal which had within it all the soil and rock minerals found on the continents today. No doubt geological processes worked on this immense deposit and in time produced the geology we have today.
The planetissimal came down into an immense ocean and very probably had a thick coating of ice as well. (my book explains the formation and structure of planetissimals) The immense heat generated by friction on the impact surfaces would have reduced the top of the basiltic lithosphere and the bottom of the continental land mass into a highly pressurized complex fluid-ideal to allow the land mass to slide about on the basaltic shell with only the slightest provocation.
I have just posted something on the Book Nook section under a scientific theory for creation which sums up my feelings on this whole issue and I think answers some of you other comments.

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LRP
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Message 35 of 159 (29558)
01-19-2003 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by David unfamous
01-18-2003 9:03 AM


quote:
Originally posted by David unfamous:
LRP,
I've entered into this a bit late, but since when has Pangea thought to have been a circular continent?

Snider (1858) was I think the first person to reconstruct the continents and this was to all intents and purposes circular
when plotted on the curved surface of the globe.
Wegener(1915) also managed to get it close to circular.
Du Toit(1937) Smith and Hallam (1970), Tarling (1972) and Powell et al (1980) seem to have made it a bit more elliptical.
An eliptical shape would be more in keeping with the method of formation I have suggested.

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LRP
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Message 36 of 159 (29559)
01-19-2003 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by John
01-18-2003 11:22 AM


quote:
Before the formation of any land mass the Earth had to have a covering of water with an average depth of around 4000m.
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Why? Where is the common sense science to support this?
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Take the volume of water in all of the Earths oceans at present.
Divide this with the present earths surface. Answer about 4000m
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What sudden appearance of a land mass?
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The supercontinent Pangaea
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That exhibited impossible dynamics, like neatly spreading itself into a circular continent that somehow also represents the ring of fire.
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No.The Pacific ring of fire only marks the rim of the immense crater that was formed when planetissimal Pangaea plunged into the ocean and bounced off before coming to rest further on on the water covered globe.
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You do know that the crash would have to create all of the layers of sediment and rock as well as deposits of salt, oil, etc. that are found in the continents? And this without melting most of it?
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Yes. The planetissimal was itself covered over by a thick coating of
ice (like some of Jupiter's moons) so much of its sediment and hydrocarbons) survived the crash. A lot probably got burnt off and methamorphised. Sorting of the sediments by continuous tidal forces would also have taken place after the crash. But the remains are here for all to explore.
I believe a good part of the coal we have was infact original carbon
made in space but some coal formation subsequently and evidently took place. But millions of years for this are not required.
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quote:
No doubt geological processes worked on this immense deposit and in time produced the geology we have today.
How much time? 4.3 billion years maybe?
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A strong NO. Four billion years would have seen the complete eradication of the immense deposit. Bearing in mind the nature of the deposits and the heat involved and the isostatic imbalance the whole of the Geological Column as we see it today need not have taken more than perhaps 50,000yearsto form.
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Except an impact of something the size you propose would destroy the planet.
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A strong NO again. The planetissimal did not appear from nowhere but was in a spiralling orbit that began further away from the then Earth but in the same plane. Consequently the crash when it came would have to be a 'soft landing' on a deep ocean. The Moon is another planetissimal that fortunately for us did not crash.
We must remember that our planet is really a collection of asteroids,
and planetissimals. The planetissimal that formed the supercontinent was simply a late comer (by God's design no doubt)

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Message 66 of 159 (29907)
01-22-2003 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by David unfamous
01-21-2003 12:04 PM


(Comment on message 64)
An eliptoid still fits the shape satisfactorily for the way I think the supercontinent was formed. A simple experiment could be tried. Take a small lump of very soft clay and hurl it on to a rotating sphere Aim for just above the equator. Hopefully the clay will flatten and stick to the sphere. Will it form a circle or an ellipse or an eliptoid I wonder. If centrifugal (or is it centripetal?) forces are considered it may well be an eliptoid.

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Message 68 of 159 (29928)
01-22-2003 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by John
01-22-2003 4:14 PM


I disagree. You will ofcourse get fragmentation if the relative velocities are high enough. If the velocity was too low the ball would remain intact and just sit on the sphere (assuming it was sticky enough to cling to it and then flatten into a circle. In between these two extremes it would flatten into some other shape.
When dealing with planetissimals the relative velocity between a planet and the planetissimal can be extremely high or quite low depending on their respective orbits prior to collision.
I know that the word 'earth' used in the Bible is also used for the dry land (supercontinent?) that arose out of the ocean on the second day of the Genesis creation account. The shape of the earth gets a few mentions in the Bible eg
'the earth takes shape like clay under a seal' {Job 38:14}
'He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth' {Isaiah 40:22}

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Message 79 of 159 (30191)
01-25-2003 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Joe Meert
01-23-2003 2:09 PM


MORE ABOUT PLANETISSIMAL PANGAEA
The theory that supercontinent Pangaea is the remains of a crashed planetissimal seems to have attracted some attention in this forum and as originator of the theory I thought I ought to give more by way of explanation in response to some of the comments made.
To understand the origin and nature of this planetissimal we need to go right back to the formation of the Solar System.
It is widely accepted that the Solar System was formed from a cloud of gas and dust called the Solar Nebula. The origin and detailed characteristics of this nebula has however not received much attention. In my book Before the First Day I explain how this nebula was formed as the result of the collapse of a binary star in which one or both bodies of the system had already reached an advanced state in stellar evolution. Thus all the materials needed for the formation of the Solar System were contained within one or both members of the binary star system. Binary stars are the norm rather than the exception in the Universe. Collapse of these systems is a frequent occurrence and has become a subject of active research.
The collapse of a binary system results in the production of a very hot rapidly expanding nebula that rotates about the now central single body. In time this nebula cools and contract to leave a cold but still rotating cloud of particles of frozen gases and many trillions of tons of dust containing atoms and molecules of all the elements and their chemical compounds..
Magnetic, gravitational and radiation and centrifugal forces then play their part and some sorting of the gas and dust cloud takes place which basically means heavier particles ‘sink’ towards the coalesced bodies and lighter ones are propelled outwards and a grading process of separation and concentration takes place.
From this cloud the particles would begin to clump together to form bigger particles. In time particles ranging in size from a few microns to may metres and even kilometres form. Out of all this debris planetissimals and eventually planets take form as the dust clears.
Hence at a fairly late stage in the development of our Solar System there would have been billions of asteroids of all sizes and thousands of planetissimals among about a dozen or so almost completed planets.
The planetissimals and the planets and most of the other debris would have shared the same now crowded elliptical plane but al would enjo an orbit of their own for a short while..
But as there was still much debris to gather up none of the bodies in the planetary disc would have been able to retain their orbits for long but would have continued inwards in spiral orbits.
So at one stage of this process we would have Earth in an orbit at say 94 million miles from the Protosun, a large planetissimal at say 0.5 million miles further out and the Moon at a safe distance away
of say 2 million miles further out.
Because of the continued accretion of matter by all three bodies it is not difficult to see why a sizeable planetissimal would come within the grasp of the Earth’s gravity and be captured by it. But the collision between the Earth and the planetissimal would be a ‘side by side’ one rather than a head on one.
In my theory for the formation of this particular planetissimal I explain how it would have been would
have been completely encapsulated by three different spheres. An outer sphere of ice several hundreds of
metres thick, a middle sphere of essentially basaltic rock and an inner sphere of essentially granitic rock.
This planetisimal would have had a small core of iron/nickel covered by a a mantle of water, hydrocarbons
and sediments layered to an extent.
When Planetissimal Pangaea collided with the Earth it had to be a gentle touchdown for two reasons.
Firstly its own gravity was able to suck up great volumes of water from the global ocean which had a
‘drag’ effect and impeded it in its flight.
Secondly when it landed in the Pacific Ocean area it made a huge dent on the ocean floor and cracked
It in the process thereby losing some of its energy. But it bounced off and came to rest on the other side of the globe again in a deep ocean of water. Its three protective layers helped to
cushion the impact with limited success thankfully.
Thus four shells of protection allowed a good proportion of the material from the crashed planettismal to form a huge near circular mound with an average thickness of 20miles and a diameter of 8500miles.A planetissimal 1300 miles in diameter would contain enough material for this.
For this reason the Earth only has a substantial land surface on one side of the globe and this land mass
has a basaltic base but a generally granitic body with billions of tons of sorted and unsorted sediments.
Much of the sediments have become metamorphosed into rock by the heat of the impact. Life on the planetissimal may have been a possibility before the crash.
The huge quantity of sediments now on the sea floor is most probably the remains of the sediments that did escape one way or other but other small planetissimals which had a more disastrous landing on
the earth can also account for the tremendous quantity of sediments in the ocean bed.
By way of a final note let me say all this is offered as a theory although I have probably explained it as fact to make the reading easier.It is a theory in accordance with my understanding of the various sciences and it has good biblical support which I like about it but others may oppose it for this very reason.
Like any theory it can never be proved to be correct but it can easily be proved to be wrong.
Can someone in this forum venture to knock it down in its overall concept? Or better still is there anyone out there who has facts in support of it. Good to hear from you either way.

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Message 86 of 159 (30249)
01-26-2003 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Randy
01-25-2003 4:51 PM


Fair comment.
I dont have the necessary expertise to prove that my 'soft landing'
idea is a physical possibility but intuitively I liken this event to something like propelling a powerful magnet over a thick bed of iron filings. I can visualize the magnet getting heavier and losing some of the horizontal component of its velocity. We know that the Moon 'sucking' ability causes tides on the Earth and I just think that the local tide in the vicinity of the travelling planetissimal
would be very high so the last few thousand miles of the planetissimal could have been in a semi submerged state and that would slow it down.
However as a Bible believer I cannot leave God out of this event.
It is strongly inferred in the scriptures and as God is fully in control over the laws of nature He could have ensured the sort of ideal landing. But I still believe the mechanics of it all can be worked out satisfactorily by anyone who is really prepared to believe that it happened.

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Message 87 of 159 (30250)
01-26-2003 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by John
01-25-2003 6:04 PM


Response to Message 81 from John.
Star formation
My theory is not about star formation but on what happens after a binary star collapses.
My evidence that the Nebula had the characteristics that I say it has is to be found on all the planets including the Earth. My book addresses this coment fully.
In a binary system the two partners do not have to be of any particular age.
It helps if one of them is nearing the supernova state but this is not essential for the fabrication of all the elements from hydrogen.
A binary collapse is quite different from an exploding star.
Both the Earth and the planetissimal can indeeed be regarded as 'bouncy rubber balls' Isostacy is evidence for this. The 'skin' of the ball is really very thin compared to the diameter and below the skin there is certainly compressible matter.
The total amount of sediments on the earth is (I read somewhere) almost as great if not greater than the volume of the oceans.
I am proposing that much of these sediments were fornmed and sorted out to a certain extent in the planetary disc and then swept up by the planets as they formed. Planetissimals of the sort I am proposing will only add to the sediments already present.
The figures for orbits that I gave was for illustration only. In my theory all planets started to form many millions of miles away from
and only spiralled their way into their present orbits in the final stages of the completion of the Solar System
For response to the rest of your comments please see my previous post.

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Message 88 of 159 (30252)
01-26-2003 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by TrueCreation
01-25-2003 6:18 PM


True Creation asks how the sediment distribution near oceanic ridges can be explained.
Firstly this means that no substantial addition of sediments from
impacting bodies have been made since the ridges were formed.
Secondly the ridges (in my theory) represent lines where the ocean floor was once lifted and then subsided. During uplift any sediments would naturally thin out near the ridge and thicken the further you go away in mudflows and undersea landslides.
The lithosphere near ocean ridges is expected to be thiner for the same reason. Molten basalt has great flowing characteristics and because it would be flowing away from the raised ridge I would expect the ridge itself to hold back only sufficient material to seal the rift.

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Message 89 of 159 (30253)
01-26-2003 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Randy
01-25-2003 8:15 PM


Your calculations do not take into account the surface and internal structure of the colliding objects and so are invalid. But see my post above.
I was not proposing a flood model at all so am not sure why you had to propose yours here. But I feel sorry for you because you have just confirmed a biblical scripture (2 Peter 3:3-7)

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