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melatonin
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Message 1 of 60 (299672)
03-30-2006 7:55 PM


Atheists identified as America’s most distrusted minority, according to new U of M study
What: U of M study reveals America’s distrust of atheism
Who: Penny Edgell, associate professor of sociology
Contact: Nina Shepherd, sociology media relations, (612) 599-1148
Mark Cassutt University News Service, (612) 624-8038
MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL (3/28/2006) -- American’s increasing acceptance of religious diversity doesn’t extend to those who don’t believe in a god, according to a national survey by researchers in the University of Minnesota’s department of sociology.
From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households, university researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in “sharing their vision of American society.” Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow their children to marry.
Even though atheists are few in number, not formally organized and relatively hard to publicly identify, they are seen as a threat to the American way of life by a large portion of the American public. “Atheists, who account for about 3 percent of the U.S. population, offer a glaring exception to the rule of increasing social tolerance over the last 30 years,” says Penny Edgell, associate sociology professor and the study’s lead researcher.
Edgell also argues that today’s atheists play the role that Catholics, Jews and communists have played in the past”they offer a symbolic moral boundary to membership in American society. “It seems most Americans believe that diversity is fine, as long as every one shares a common ”core’ of values that make them trustworthy”and in America, that ”core’ has historically been religious,” says Edgell. Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting social disorder is behind the findings. “Americans believe they share more than rules and procedures with their fellow citizens”they share an understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as self-interested individuals who are not concerned with the common good.”
The researchers also found acceptance or rejection of atheists is related not only to personal religiosity, but also to one’s exposure to diversity, education and political orientation”with more educated, East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their Midwestern counterparts.
The study is co-authored by assistant professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann. It’s the first in a series of national studies conducted the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project funded by the Minneapolis-based David Edelstein Family Foundation that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in the contemporary United States. The study will appear in the April issue of the American Sociological Review.
http://www.ur.umn.edu/...
Thought this may be a place for holmes and crash to continue their discussion.
So athiests may be the most distrusted minority in the states.
Changed URL display length to fix page width - The Queen
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melatonin
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Message 2 of 60 (299676)
03-30-2006 8:05 PM


oh sorry, I just realised I could post this straight in news
Should I repost or can you move it to news?

  
melatonin
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Message 5 of 60 (299684)
03-30-2006 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by nwr
03-30-2006 8:11 PM


Re: What about "non-religious" people?
I do find it strange. In europe atheism is a well-respected position.
Moreover, in the UK, where we have no separation of church and state, there is little of the militant christianity you seem to have in the US. Maybe we just become sick of having it shoved down our throats as children.

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melatonin
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Message 8 of 60 (299697)
03-30-2006 9:05 PM
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03-30-2006 8:55 PM


Re: What about "non-religious" people?
It seems that most of the militant ones left Britain, and headed this way.
haha, true and we'll be forever in your debt for that.

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melatonin
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Message 9 of 60 (299698)
03-30-2006 9:12 PM
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03-30-2006 8:55 PM


Re: What about "non-religious" people?
Yep, I was in primary in the seventies, so have that experience.
Had fun with my son. He's quite militant on this issue and we've had words with teachers for him not singing along and refusing to pray.
Luckily the likes of that Green guy hold little sway, more a pest than anything. But it's something we need to keep an eye on (edit: especially these Vardy faith schools). The muslim and sikh lobby do seem to be more of a worry.
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melatonin
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Message 17 of 60 (299755)
03-31-2006 8:59 AM
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03-31-2006 5:11 AM


I do have access to the journal, but they are still at the february issue and have no 'in press' articles. I will post a link to it when available.
I prefer proper experimentation myself rather than these more phenomenological type studies. If we know anything in psychology, it's that what people say/do and what underlies behaviour is rather different (e.g. Nisbett studies in the late 70's).
What I would say is that if we see this this as a simple in-group/out-group distinction (i.e. godly vrs godless), then members of in-groups generally have lower feelings of trustworthiness of out-group members.
Trustworthiness is determined by an assessment of future intentions, therefore if there are different goals and values, there is a good chance of mistrust. Especially if the out-group is seen negatively and therefore 'labelled' with a negative emotion (emotions tend to infuse judgements - so, if you like an individual/group you will tend to trust them, and vice versa). Thus trust has been shown to be mediated by group membership, reputation, stereotypes (and of course personal disposition).
I don't like the methodology myself and maybe they have not really explicitly assessed 'trust' as I would like to test it (but I guess it's sociology rather than psychology). Polls such as this do have numerous issues regarding how the issue is framed. It would be interesting to actually run a proper controlled experiment, maybe using the prisoners dilema (or something similar).
And I agree that there are other minorities that attract prejudice and have little protection in society.
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melatonin
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Message 24 of 60 (299823)
03-31-2006 2:02 PM
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03-31-2006 1:32 PM


It'll be in the april issue of the american sociological review. They don't even have march available online yet, so should be a month or so.
You could e-mail her for the manuscript.
edited due to silly error
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melatonin
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Message 28 of 60 (299830)
03-31-2006 2:57 PM
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03-31-2006 2:41 PM


Thanks for correcting me Schraf, my bad.

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