Does God negate the need for his own existence?

By definition, God would not have come from nothing. He would have always existed.The two choices don't involve something coming from nothing. They involve the choice of an eternal Being creating the universe or the universe always existing.There's no reason to pick one of these choices over another.ABE: that is to say, there is no reason to pick one over the other if the creation of the universe is all we are considering.This message has been edited by robinrohan, 03-30-2006 11:36 AM

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"Headpiece filled with straw, Alas!"--T. S. Eliot

This I don't get. I don't see how this question has anything to do with "human wisdom." The choices mentioned above are the only 2 choices there are.Perhaps you are putting forth an idea that, if there were no God, we could not think? In this particular case, I was not dismissing God as an illogical concept. I was saying that there is no reason to choose between the two choices. One's as logical as another.

Why does it seem odd to you?

Indifferent? I'm not indifferent. It's just there's no way to choose logically between the 2 alternatives--if we base our decision on the idea of creation or lack thereof alone.