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Author Topic:   design evidence #320,098,754: the crossover food and air tubes in humans
Chavalon
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Message 11 of 34 (31679)
02-07-2003 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by DanskerMan
02-07-2003 3:09 PM


Sonnike, in case you would like to offer a substantive defense of the argument you cut-n-pasted, it’s worth pointing out that Schraf’s opening post refers specifically to humans - in fact to humans older than 6 months. Non human animals () and babies have their larynx high in their throats, so that food does not slide over it during swallowing. Thus, they never choke on food.
The larynx moves down the throat between the ages of 3 and 6 months, leaving a small resonating chamber above it. This is used to make the noises of speech. An intelligent designer need only have given us a separate resonating chamber through which food does not pass (a trivial energetic cost compared with the benefit of speech), and adult humans wouldn’t choke, either.
In fact this is a very good example of the way in which animals are constructed - with ad hoc changes to existing organs, rather than the introduction of wholly novel but more perfected structures. That’s how we can tell that ID is wrong.
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Chavalon
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Message 24 of 34 (32163)
02-13-2003 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by DanskerMan
02-13-2003 5:40 PM


The argument of post #5 is in need of defence, sonnike.
David unfamous pointed out (post #9) that an omnipotent creator need accept no constraints whatever in optimising design.
I pointed out (post #11) that a larynx high in the throat plus a separate resonating chamber could do the job.
Ipetrich pointed out (post #14) that dolphins do fine with 2 non-intersecting tubes.
Incedentally, threats of hellfire do not have anything to do with the substance of this debate.

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Chavalon
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Message 32 of 34 (32340)
02-15-2003 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by DanskerMan
02-13-2003 8:58 PM


I quoted a passage to show that we are like CLAY and God is the POTTER. If you take that as a threat...
I must apologise Sonnike -
First for not rereading the thread before posting that you were making threats.
Second, for making off-topic remarks, thereby encouraging others to do so. What are your replies to the various criticisms of your post #5?
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And, strange to tell, among that Earthen Lot
Some could articulate, while others not:
And suddenly one more impatient cried -
'Who is the Potter, pray, and who the Pot?
Omar Khayyam, translated by Edward FitzGerald

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