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Author Topic:   Creationists are Killing Me
John
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Message 2 of 13 (33282)
02-26-2003 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by truthlover
02-26-2003 1:39 PM


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Can someone tell me why, in a debate, one side would attempt to present evidence that, if accurate, would shoot down both sides of the debate?
It doesn't shoot down both sides. The proper question should be "Why owuld the creationist present evidence that shoots down his side?" Sediment doesn't stay on the bottom of the ocean, so this isn't really a problem for an old earth. Sediment can get scraped off of the oceanic crust as that crust is subducted under another plate, or lifted up as two plates crunch together, or the sediment might just get pulled into the mantle with the rest of the crust it rides upon.
I'm not sure what is going on with the short period comet argument. I have heard an argument which runs something like "If the earth were 4.5 billion years old there shouldn't be any short period comets as they would have all been swallowed by the sun by now." Maybe there is a connection. The problem with this argument is that there are mechanisms which can pull long period comets or other bodies into short period orbits thereby replenishing the stock of short period comets.
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John
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Message 5 of 13 (33302)
02-26-2003 5:54 PM
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02-26-2003 3:18 PM


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"The Oort Cloud has never been observed, it's just a theory...."
Magic, of course, not being a theory and hence perfectly acceptable as an explaination.
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John
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Message 9 of 13 (33378)
02-27-2003 1:14 PM
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02-27-2003 12:49 PM


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In my own defense,
It wasn't your argument was it? It was something someone had presented to you.
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What I meant was that if the argument was valid and really proved what it said it did--a thirty million year old earth--it would disagree with both sides.
Then what you were asking is why someone would shoot down there own theories? The only person who could really answer that would be the person who presented the argument. My subjective take, though, is that most creationists are more anti-evolution than pro-creation, and will do great harm to themselves in an effort to wound the bad guys-- kinda like suicide bombing really.
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Message 11 of 13 (33435)
02-28-2003 9:56 AM
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02-27-2003 10:23 PM


It could also have something to do with a disregard for science. Scientific inconsistencies aren't a problem if your beliefs are based in faith. With faith, all things are possible.
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