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Topic: Iran hangs 16 year old girl: Sharia at work.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 6 of 61 (335510)
07-26-2006 4:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by randman
07-26-2006 2:53 PM
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randman, This seems a strange subject coming from someone who's religious book advocates death by stoning for something as trivial as adultery. Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 11 of 61 (335519)
07-26-2006 4:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by randman
07-26-2006 4:33 PM
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Re: Old Testament
randman
not the New So? It's still your religious book calling for horrible death for trivial crimes. Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 16 of 61 (335532)
07-26-2006 5:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 14 by randman
07-26-2006 4:59 PM
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Re: Old Testament
randman,
Nope. It called for in a bygone era. Does not do so now. Oh, like the 10 commandments & anything else that tells us what to do in the OT? Deut 22:23 does not specify a time limit. The penalty for adultery is death by stoning, god says so. God doesn't say the penalty for adultery is death by stoning until XYZ date where it merely becomes grounds for divorce. Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 17 of 61 (335534)
07-26-2006 5:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 15 by iano
07-26-2006 4:59 PM
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Re: Old Testament
iano,
Mark 24 says it trivial. God says its not. The point is that christianity can be as violent in its retribution as Islam. Allah said so, so it's OK, right? Mark Edited by mark24, : No reason given.
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 19 of 61 (335540)
07-26-2006 5:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 18 by randman
07-26-2006 5:19 PM
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Re: Old Testament
Randman,
But I think it's clear what is going on. You guys hate Christianity so much you won't admit unequivocally that what occurs in iran is wrong, but have to try to falsely smear Christianity, suggesting wrongly that Christianity and Christians support stoning 16 year old girls. Wrong, what's going on in Iran is evil bullshit. I am not smearing christianity, I am merely juxtaposing Sharia law with the same evil bullshit in the bible. That you can't handle that your religious books can be just as bad is your problem, not mine. Shame you can't see the wood for the trees. Secondly, why don't christians support stoning adulterers? Are christians in the habit of denying god's word?
Sorry, but no one but the choir buys your preaching. MY PREACHING? It's in your fucking religious book, not mine. Good grief! Wriggle & twist all you like, the bible calls for death by stoning for acts that in western countries don't even register as crimes today. I don't think adultery is particularly a good thing, either, but death by stoning is a tad too tough a punishment for reasonable people. But in this case the bible is no better than Sharia law. It's undeniable, it's there in black & white, quite literally. Mark Edited by mark24, : No reason given.
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 22 of 61 (335544)
07-26-2006 5:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 20 by iano
07-26-2006 5:38 PM
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Re: Old Testament
iano,
Stoning, appalling though it is, only leads to temporal suffering and death - a relative pittance in the scheme of things. A bit like hanging? Sharia law isn't that bad, then? Tell you what, I'll come & stone you to death, after all, it's only temporal, or would you prefer a hanging? I'd almost be doing you a favour, bringing you close to god, and all. But we both know this, & what you wrote above is crap. This post was just an excuse as to why god can get away with it but Allah can't, wasn't it? Mark Edited by mark24, : No reason given. Edited by mark24, : No reason given. Edited by mark24, : No reason given.
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 27 of 61 (335564)
07-26-2006 7:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 24 by iano
07-26-2006 7:09 PM
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Re: Old Testament
Iano,
Compared to Gods wrath expressed against your sin for all eternity? Then no. Give me Sharia law anyday Fine, as long as you are in disagreement with randman, I'll leave it there. I disagree, but at least you are consistent. But for the record, what happens to christians who commit adultery in your town? Do christians uphold the bible & stone 'em to death? After all, the death penalty/life imprisonment for the stoners is meaningless to what comes after. Or do they damn themselves by not upholding gods word & wish & basically do nothing? Mark Edited by mark24, : No reason given. Edited by mark24, : No reason given.
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 37 of 61 (335632)
07-27-2006 4:06 AM
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Reply to: Message 35 by Jazzns
07-27-2006 1:01 AM
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Re: Old Testament
Jazzns,
Sort of sucks when someone refuses to talk about the topic you brought up and instead tries to distract by bringing up irrelevant counterexamples doesn't it? I'm not refusing to talk about the topic, it just seems hypocritical that what the Koran calls for is wrong, but similar in the bible gets conveniently brushed aside. Exposing double standards is not irrelevant. Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 45 of 61 (335662)
07-27-2006 7:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 41 by iano
07-27-2006 6:08 AM
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Re: Old Testament
iano,
Its simple logic: there cannot be two almighty gods. Thus, if God then no Allah. And seeing as I know God exists I therefore know Allah (and all the rest of them) doesn't. And Muslims know Allah exists, therefore no Xian god. But the fact is neither of you know anything of the sort. Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 50 of 61 (335678)
07-27-2006 8:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 48 by iano
07-27-2006 8:11 AM
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Re: Old Testament
iano,
Unlike God, Allah is not personal. He contacted you... Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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