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Author Topic:   The Pope's Faulty Thesis (in regards to Islam)
ThingsChange
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Message 17 of 75 (350105)
09-18-2006 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Tusko
09-18-2006 6:56 PM


Why Reason is with the Catholics
I see this as a clear indication that the pope sees Christianity as more compatable with the idea of the rational than Islam.
Holy cow! I can't believe a Westerner would think Islam is more compatible with reason. Wait a minute, a liberal sees everything upsidedown and focuses on perceived intentions rather than results. Are you a liberal?
Proof of Pope's reasoning:
1. 400,000 Catholics cross the southern border of USA each year for opportunity (such as work, crime, welfare) to improve their lives
2. Islamic terrorists are Muslim, and cross the border to destroy property and lives (including their own)
3. Catholics in some cases accept Evolution
4. Islam preaches a version of Creation
5. Catholics try to persuade people to convert
6. Muslim terrorists convert reporters by holding gun to their heads
7. Christians use words to criticize art that mocks Jesus (like the urine art in NY museum)
8. Muslims riot and burn buildings and cars in response to cartoons in a Danish news rag; and killed a film guy in Netherlands for his film, and would kill Salmon Rushdie if they could find him
P.S. I wrote this to inflame the liberals and provoke numerous flames to prove my point.

'Liberalism is a mental disorder' - Michael Savage

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ThingsChange
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Message 19 of 75 (350162)
09-19-2006 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by kuresu
09-18-2006 9:03 PM


Re: Why Reason is with the Catholics
kuresu writes:
When does crossing a border, where you can get killed or sent back, make sense? or is rational?
It obviously makes sense to 400,000 per year. Very few die crossing the border. It makes sense for the reasons I cited. The problem is that they are not embracing being an American. This will lead to a cultural divide that will eventually lead to division, in my opinion.
What does evolution and catholics have to do with any of this?
The topic is "reasoning". Let's see... between evolution and creationism, which would you say is more associated with testimony and which is more associated with reason?
Christians have reacted violently, jst not in our recent history. Learn about the KKK? Response to a precieved attack on their religion.
And didn't fellow Christians condemn the KKK and act to suppress it? Yes they did. I don't see Muslims organizing to do the same against their radicals.
How are these proof's of the pope's reasoning about Islam? If anything, it says something about man in general under the influence of religion.
The point being debated was not strictly about Islam, but about comparing Catholics with Muslims with regard to being more reason-able.
...is it liberal to wonder what Pyongyang plans on doing?
No. It's the response, that might differ.
The big worry of the year is Iran, not Korea (until their blackmail deal's warranty expires). I am afraid that Iran already has a deal with Russia and/or China to be an ally if the USA etc threatens an attack. ArmadilloDad senses weakness in the West to fight, so I think he is playing "appeasement acceptable" pawn moves to gain strength and support in Islam.
Oh, notice the total lack of flaming? Apparently we are capable of being rational at times.
Thank you. And, ditto for keeping the post not too long.

'Liberalism is a mental disorder' - Michael Savage

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ThingsChange
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Message 28 of 75 (350196)
09-19-2006 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by crashfrog
09-19-2006 1:37 AM


Assimilation
Your evidence that they don't assimilate?
If the immigration was legal, they would come in limited numbers that make assimilation the norm. However, with the invasion of so many illegal and uneducated Mexicans, the easier path for them is to retain their culture.
I live in Houston. I see, hear and experience Mexico. There are neighborhoods where there are so many Hispanics, they can live without speaking much English. I see more and more Mexican flags, and see interviews with more and more Mexico-loyalists no longer afraid to speak out about it. Don't tell me they assimilate in one generation, other than many of the women and children learning to get on the welfare rolls (50%), and the education system. Nearly 30% of prison population are not US citizens.
I am surprised that the liberals are so supportive of the illegals, who are almost all Catholic. So, get ready to hear more about the Pope over time, as the population shifts.
The way that liberals attack Christians and conservatives is good evidence that very different cultures clash (not to mention history is full of division among different cultures).
You are a classic liberal. You reinforce what Savage and others speak about.

'Liberalism is a mental disorder' - Michael Savage

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ThingsChange
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Message 46 of 75 (350525)
09-19-2006 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by kuresu
09-19-2006 3:09 PM


The Kuresu's Faulty Thesis
Ever wonder why the lesser educated (aware, whatever) tend to be conservative?
Once again, you liberals turn things upsidedown and backwards! Liberals consist of welfare folk and permanent students who keep taking classes to avoid the real world, and the only job they can get is as a professor to spread their misconceptions.
Meanwhile, conservatives farm the heartland, protect the country, build mansions, create jobs (for illegal immigrants because liberals won't take those jobs), and pay taxes to keep the liberals healthy.

'Liberalism is a mental disorder' - Michael Savage

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ThingsChange
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Message 48 of 75 (350594)
09-20-2006 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by kuresu
09-19-2006 11:27 PM


Re: The Kuresu's Faulty Thesis
oh, by the way--you never showed how my thesis was wrong
First, you never had a "thesis", just an opinion. You are the one with the burden of proof, not me.
Second, citing a few people as proof is a faulty method. Even conservatives are educated to know that.
Third, lighten-up. You were unable to distinguish serious discussion from humor. That probably stems from an assumption that your "thesis" is correct and conservatives are dumb (which, by the way is not necessarily correlated with formal education).
Fourth, this is all off-topic and is going nowhere.

'Liberalism is a mental disorder' - Michael Savage

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