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Author Topic:   Definitions, Daffynitions, Delusions, Logic and Critical Thinking.
robinrohan
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Message 13 of 49 (352323)
09-26-2006 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by RAZD
09-25-2006 8:37 PM


Re: Courage
Aye. If you don't hold out the possibility that you are wrong on an equal footing with all other possibilities, then you have jeopardized your personal results.
The stance described here is an ideal behavior, not a realistic one.
Science succeeds through prejudice.
A quote from an essay called "In Defense of Prejudice": "[science] does not require that scientists be unbiased, only that different scientists have different biases."

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robinrohan
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Message 16 of 49 (352330)
09-26-2006 8:22 AM
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09-26-2006 7:59 AM


Re: Courage
Not so, Rob, I face it many times a year. Unlike other habits, it doesn`t get easier with practice.
If the results are academic and have no personal importance, then it's possible. But when the results are going to have personal ramifications (on one's career, for example), then bias is inevitable.
This big-to-do in education about "critical thinking" is mere piety. The term "critical thinking" is meaningless. It just means "thinking."
It's a reaction to "rote" learning, although memorization has its place in education. To be sure, mere memorization by itself is not good education.

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robinrohan
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Message 26 of 49 (352818)
09-28-2006 12:19 PM
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09-28-2006 7:29 AM


Re: Courage
The whole essence of 'Crit-think' is that it is intensely personal.
By personal I mean practical.
And what's all this talk about "courage"?

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robinrohan
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Message 28 of 49 (353064)
09-29-2006 8:14 AM
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09-29-2006 6:24 AM


Re: Courage
Courage? How else would you define letting go of the familiar? What other quality sums up changing your cosy beliefs to the harsh light of Crit-think?
This does not correspond to my experience of life in the least. I never had any religious beliefs to begin with, but I don't think it took any "courage" to go on not having religious beliefs. It didn't take any "courage" for me to examine arguments on both sides.
Just sounds like boasting to me.

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robinrohan
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Message 36 of 49 (353255)
09-29-2006 9:59 PM
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09-29-2006 9:28 PM


Re: Courage
Nah, boasting is for the ego-driven
Everybody is ego-driven.

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