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Author Topic:   Human Special-nes
ringo
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Message 5 of 35 (386763)
02-23-2007 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
02-23-2007 12:40 PM


First, I take issue with your definition of "human". I think it should include all members of the Homo line, not just the sapient ones. And beings from "a distant planet" are definitely not "human", regardless of how sapient they might be.
Second, none of your examples of "specialness" are valid. Interspecies empathy/sympathy does seem to exist, many species use technology, etc.
We may be "special" in some ways, but other species are special in other ways.

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ringo
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Message 9 of 35 (386775)
02-23-2007 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by New Cat's Eye
02-23-2007 2:53 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:
I realize that dolphins might be talking about how special they are and thinking that because we aren't talking back then we are less special and they are the ultimate in specialness but I highly doubt that they are considering this.
Over at Dolphin Forums, they're highly unimpressed with your argument.

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Message 32 of 35 (386873)
02-24-2007 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Doddy
02-24-2007 8:36 AM


Re: Person = human?
Doddy writes:
... this brings up the point of whether a person needs to be human.
As an interesting aside, we have the Persons Case in Canada:
quote:
The women asked, "Does the word 'person' in Section 24 of the British North America Act include female persons?" The campaign became known as The Persons Case and reached the Supreme Court of Canada on March 1928. The court denied the women from challenging the interpretation of the word “persons” which lead the five women to bring the case to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in Britain. On October 18, 1929, the Privy Council unanimously declared that women will also be considered as “persons” under the BNA Act and are eligible to serve in the Senate.
Making one group "special" - e.g. males - can lead in some pretty bizzaro directions.
I'd still call you a "he" rather than an "it", but I wouldn't say human.
Just out of curiosity, how would you know if an alien was a "he", a "she" or an "other"?

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