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ogon
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Message 1 of 18 (401393)
05-19-2007 4:18 PM


Hope you guys don't think, here we go again we've heard this one before!
Behaviour, is it passed on like other characteristics?
I have seen sheepdog pups with no experience in the field take to herding and stalking like they have been doing it all their life!
edit by me
I've just re-read my post and I've answered my own quesion really!
I've asked is behaviour a part of the evolutionary process and then I've said I've witnessed it is through my own observation!
I guess what I'm asking really is, how can behaviour be passed on?
I'm having difficulty because, correct me if I'm wrong, evolution is biological, yes? Biological things are passed on through reproduction.
But, is behaviour biological? can it be studied under a microscope?
can it be seperated and studied biologically?
That's really what I was getting at. Blue eyes can be inherited BUT how so behaviour?
thanks for your patience guys and the simpler the better.
ogon
ogon
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ogon
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Message 6 of 18 (401661)
05-21-2007 2:35 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by jar
05-20-2007 11:07 PM


Re: As usual, you are looking at something complex
After reading through the replies I thought about the sheepdog and how the stalking isn't the first thing it does automatically. As soon as it is born it searches for the mothers teet in order to suckle.
BUT, this raised another question which I hope doesn't muddy the water! Is this rather instinct that behaviour? Or is the stalking instinct as well?
ogon

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Message 8 of 18 (401682)
05-21-2007 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Doddy
05-21-2007 3:18 AM


Re: As usual, you are looking at something complex
If a person throws a ball at you and it hits you in the face what happens when he throws the next ball? you duck! learned behaviour.
Now a new born swallow in my hometown here in the UK says to itself, it's getting a bit cold and then procedes to fly down south to North Africa, that to me is insinct, not learned behaviour.
So from what I now understand both are determined biologically. There must be some pretty powerful stuff going on in them there genes! fantastic!!
ogon

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ogon
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Message 13 of 18 (401706)
05-21-2007 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Dr Adequate
05-21-2007 4:21 PM


Re: Remedial Reading For MartinV
As with my other questions so far, I ask the question, I get replies, then I reflect and come to some understanding.
In the light of what I now know about evolution, swallow migration doesn't surprise me as much as it did. Afterall, there are great migrating species in the seas, and overland as well as in the skies.
Whatever the method it has most certainly evolved over millions of years. And let's face it, humans have evolved skills which now enable them to circumnavigate the world and have now taken to navigating outer space! And not so long ago you might have been deemed mad to suggest such a thing.
ogon

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