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Author Topic:   why do you believe ?
zephyr
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Message 9 of 40 (40150)
05-14-2003 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Spud
05-14-2003 6:40 PM


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Oh yeh and these guys have helped out heaps too!
Answers | Answers in Genesis
What have they done for you? Have you looked at any impartial sites that offer plain information, as opposed to arguments for a preconceived conclusion?
[This message has been edited by zephyr, 05-14-2003]

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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4581 days)
Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
Joined: 04-22-2003


Message 17 of 40 (40270)
05-15-2003 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Paul
05-15-2003 1:23 PM


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We see where in some species that one of a mating pair is killed directly after mating, therefore proof of no consciencness of death or fear of it in other species. As I said, other species will avoid death through instincts, however they will not, as some humans do, have a nervous breakdown over, or be consumed by, the fear of it.
Our brains are more complex. We have structures in them that perform abstract reasoning better than animals' brains. Our fear of death is explicit and "conscious" (whatever that means to you) while theirs is instinctive and demonstrated behaviorally. A conscious fear of death is a great survival mechanism. Do you have any evidence indicating this explanation is not enough?
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Without a doubt, the foundation for evolution IS Nilallism( Nothing working on nothing by nothing, through nothing, for nothing, produced everything) and it is an extremely hard foundation to swallow and very difficult for the human mind to accept, in that it gives absoluetly no purpose to life.
Besides relying on a concept of evolution that most would never agree with (a.k.a. STRAWMAN), you are putting the cart before the horse when you insist on purpose for something that just IS. Life happens, we can watch or participate but we can't stop it. Nor can we determine its purpose, or lack thereof, simply based on how the conclusion makes us feel!
A proponent of absolute divine truth would be expected to agree.

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zephyr
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Message 24 of 40 (40332)
05-15-2003 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by truthlover
05-15-2003 9:24 PM


Re: Why Do I Believe
Sounds like the kind of place I'd like to live, in some ways. If there is a Spirit tho, my sense of it has been broken for a long time. I look and I listen and nothing happens... I think about the times when I thought there was an answer from God, and I think I was answering with what I expected He would say. On with the search....

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