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jar

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Message 5 of 76 (429933)
10-22-2007 4:09 PM

Reply to: Message 4 by Spektical
10-22-2007 3:58 PM

Not all forces are equal

Maybe it would help if I point out that not all forces are equal. While gravity seems to be one of the weakest of forces, it also seems to operate over greater distances than many of the others. We have trees and buildings and mountains because some forces are stronger than gravity, and because those operate over shorter distances than gravity.

While space does seem to be expanding, the force driving the expansion does not seem to be stronger than other forces, therefore we see different forces controlling local effects.

The result is the universe we see.

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Message 64 of 76 (430192)
10-23-2007 5:50 PM

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10-23-2007 5:15 PM

Re: What came first? Creator or Matter?

# where did the singularity come from?
# was the singularity the uncaused first cause?

I'm sorry but not at all sure that those have any meaning.

# why do people always ask "who created God" hypothetically yet seem unable to address "how did the singularity originate"?

Because there is evidence that the singularity existed, and we simply do not yet know enough to address the second part of the question, how it came about. There are people working on the question though.

Humans seem to sit better with explainable and definable origins rather than unexplainable, undefinable (or controllable) origins.

Huh? What does that even mean?

And this also fits quite nicely with allowing humans to explain their origin...thus creating a theory

Huh? What does that even mean?

The key factor though is that the current models actually carry meaning and content, we actually know more once we study them than we did before. Inserting Goddidit tells us nothing, we learn nothing and we come away no wiser than we began.

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Message 68 of 76 (430289)
10-24-2007 10:31 AM

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10-24-2007 10:23 AM

Re: What came first? Creator or Matter?

Huh?

I have no idea why you are replying to me but I am pretty sure I did not say what you are quoting me as saying.

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