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The only difference between suicide and martyrdom is press coverage.

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crashfrog
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06-23-2003 12:01 AM 		Reply to: Message 9 by mike the wiz
06-22-2003 5:02 PM

Well this is just about the most lame arguement against Jesus i have ever heard
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Do you suppose it's possible that non-christians could talk about christianity with a point besides "it's not true"? Seriously, does every question about christianity have to be couched in those terms?
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This hasn't been an "argument against Jesus". It's simply a "what-if" designed to illuminate the phenomenon of religion, which many of us find interesting.
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crashfrog
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06-23-2003 10:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 23 by mike the wiz
06-23-2003 9:57 PM

Re: preventing future cell death morally
He lay down his life for us of his own accord , therefore what ifs are meaningless with me.
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Well, fine, but they're kind of fun for the rest of us. So why not leave us be with our what-ifs?
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crashfrog
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06-24-2003 6:17 AM 		Reply to: Message 26 by Mister Pamboli
06-24-2003 2:47 AM

Why? Is there a good reason for this, or is this just another whim of the murderous deity who you would have us believe constructs such a world with perfect foresight?
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Is this really a fair question? This seems akin to Buz asking us something like "why are the fundamental laws of the universe the way they are, and not another way?"
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I'm willing to allow blood-redemption as a fundamental axiom of Buz's Christian worldview. It's certainly no more arbitrary than any physical constant, I'd say. Anyway Buz provided the bible quote so that's sufficient evidence to me, within the scope of the Christian worldview.
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Challenge his worldview if you like, but I don't see this being a fruitful way to do so... Just my two-hundreths of a dollar.
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