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Insect Wing Evolution

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Wounded King
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12-13-2007 8:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by BattleAxeDime
12-12-2007 9:02 PM

I am beginning to believe that insecta does create a problem for Macroevolution, because of evolutionists consitent need to change and revise the insectal phylogenetic tree.
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Why should this represent a problem? There are a hell of a lot of insects and more genetic information on them is being gathered all the time, this is bound to lead to a lot of revision of phylogenetic trees, especially ones based principally on gross morphology.
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Just to add to the many suggested links there is an interesting review in PNAS looking at different theories of insect wing origins and how some can be tested through developmental approaches, (Jockusch and Ober, 2004).
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WK
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12-13-2007 10:45 AM 		Reply to: Message 7 by BattleAxeDime
12-13-2007 9:08 AM

Insect Phylogeny
The tree of life website has a very nice nested phylogeny for winged insects but you need to browse through the various levels to see it all. I'm not sure where there is a detailed phylogeny of the winged insect, or insecta in general.
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12-14-2007 4:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 10 by BattleAxeDime
12-13-2007 8:40 PM

Re: Insect Phylogeny
Like I said you need to browse through the tree a bit. The Neoptera are right there on the Pterygota page, just click on the hyperlink and it will give you a tree containing the plecoptera and endopterygota. The way the site is structured unfortunately it won't display a larger tree encompassing several levels.
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