The impossibility of infinite ability..aka "god"

God cannot be infinitely powerful. To be so, it would have to be able to move at an infinite rate.But this is impossible, because consider: distance = rate * time, correct?And, rate = distance/time, correct?But if god were to move at an infinite rate, then either the distance moved in a time frame would be infinite, or the time for movement would be zero, or one last option: the rate is in fact ever-accelerating, rather than being infinite in one slice of time.Option 1: distance moved in a time frame is infinite. But such is impossible because, say it takes time X to move an infinite distance. Since distance/rate = time, then if the distance and rate were infinite, the time taken would always be "1". It would take time to move at an infinite distance, but since the time would never change, neither could the distance, giving distance, and therefore rate, a finite value. God would be contradicting itself by saying that it could move at an infinite rate but not in any time frame go an infinite distance.Option 2: time for movement is zero. But since distance = rate * time, no matter what the rate, the distance would be zero, since rate * zero = zero. and, since rate = distance/time, such an "infinite" rate would equal zero distance/zero time, = zero, not infinity. God would be contradicting itself by saying that it could move somewhere in zero time but not go anywhere.Option 3: the rate is ever-accelerating, not infinite at one time. But since for, say, a random point in time the distance is X, for that period of time taken, the rate would only be distance/time, a finite value. So, god would'nt be able to go anywhere in an instant, but only go there at a rate. God would be contradicting itself by saying it could go an infinite rate but never actually be going at an infinite rate, just ever more quickly as time passes on.Therefore, god is not omnipresent, since he can't be everywhere at the same time, and not omnipotent, since his ability to move, the fundamental type of action would be limited, so his abilities of action would be limited. He could'nt be omnipotent.

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"The profound problem I see with this whole theorem is that it presupposes that God moves along a timeline with His creation, instead of being outside of the time domain. If God is outside of the time domain, it would not be difficult to encompass all points of time simultaneously.The reason we are bound by time is because we are made of matter. Matter is intimately connected to time-space. If God is not made of matter then time and space are irrelevant to His existence."That makes no sense at all. "Time" just means that something has moved a distance. Unless god can't move, he is confined to time. If he can't move, though, the only alternative to being confined to time, he's useless. Which do you choose?Of course, it is impossible to have infitisimally small distance, so distance must occur in finite units. The time it takes something to move one distance unit is the smallest time possible(in a particular universe).Don't say either: 1. "god is outside our universe". Then, he wouldnt be able to do anything in our universe. Obviously. He'd have to go in it, if only temporarily, to pull any strings.Or, 2. "god built these rules, so he's outside it anyway". That is just a foolish cop-out low-intellects take, not realizing the foolishness of it, to explain the supernatural. It makes no sense at all.

That makes no sense at all. "Time" just means that something has moved a distance.Nemesis Juggernaut-"That is not at all what time means. Does time stop if you don't move? Does it speed up if you don't move? More to the point, if God is outside of time, then how is he bound by your limitations?"1. No, time doesnt stop if one particular body doesnt move. If everything in the universe stops though, yes, time stops. Time is only relative movement; if something never moves, it is the same as if time has stopped. Time, simply, is when something moves a distance. If nothing ever moved a distance, never budged, and were frozen, we would say time has stopped, wouldnt we? Because it has, in that case. The only way time hasnt stopped in that case is if there is something else "out there" (dont say "god", I mean, please) which is still able to move. That entity could look at everything else frozen and say, "everything has stopped. But I'm still subject to time".2. Yes, time DOES speed up for you if you arent moving. Read Einstein's theories of relativity. The faster an object is moving, the slower time travels, for that object. Haha. I just destroyed you. I bet you cant believe it. And dont object to this. Its mathematically (and experimentally) proven that the faster an object moves, the slower time is experienced for that object.Do you know why? Because of this. Say an atom has all of its electrons moving in orbits around its nucleus. It is not moving at all. The electrons are moving in perfect orbits, correct? BUT, say the atom starts moving, in any way. The electrons would not only be moving in their orbits, but also moving in the direction of the atom's overall movement, sort of like how if a racecar moves in a diagonal but the same distance forward, its moving in two directions at the same time, and the overall distance it moves becomes greater, but still, it moves the same distance forward. Get it so far? And anyways, since the electrons would be devoting some of their time to moving in the direction of the atom's overall movement, and some of it moving in their orbits, it would take more time to move in their orbits than if the atom werent moving itself. Understand? So anyways, the atom would take longer to move in its usual orbit, so, time would effectively be slowing down.Besides that, time is indeed defined as distance traveled, since:distance = rate * time. correct? of course. and, therefore, if there is no time, otherwise time, in this equation, equals zero, then d=rt= zero. No distance is traveled unless time passes.

Unless god can't move, he is confined to time. If he can't move, though, the only alternative to being confined to time, he's useless. Which do you choose?Nemesis Juggernaut-"Why do you insist that God moves at all, since movement is uniquely apportioned to that which has a body -- i.e., material? You speak of God in anthropomorphic terms, as if he were a man in outer space. These pantheistic notions about God have nothing to do with the Judeo-Christian concept of God."Uhhhhhhhhh.....if god cant move, hes a STATUE. ehhh, common sense?and, um, something has to be anthropomorphic(human-like) to move?! I didnt know my car cant move!
hmmm..........you know, I'm not convinced by you statements insofar.

TheNaturalist-"distance = rate * time. correct? of course. and, therefore, if there is no time, otherwise time, in this equation, equals zero, then d=rt= zero. No distance is traveled unless time passes."tesla-"by my belief:God is the pure singular energy that was before all things and created by faith it was.nothing was before this energy, it just was. and nothing is outside it.therefore: in its pure state before creation, time is only as relevant as it would decide it is.being man, and not able to build a star system, or a galaxy, can only understand time from the point of view of its condition. therefore: what God can do, or cannot do, is limited only by what God decides he will do, or will not do.that's my take, based on the definition i have observed."All I have to say is: "Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

Hey, thanks Well as a matter of fact, time does speed up when you are sleeping, compared to when you are moving your body, by an extremely small degree. Even if a body is moving tens of thousands of miles per hour, the time experienced on them, while they are moving, is about 99.999999% as much as if they were standing still, again, during the period of time they are moving at tens of thousands of miles per hour. When a body moves at the speed of light, the time experienced by that entity is zero.Know why? Because of this: firstly, nothing can move greater than the speed of light. (dont mention god). And since this is true, anything going at the speed of light, in one direction, would not be able to concentrate any of its time moving in any other direction. An atom(if it could, but it couldnt) moving at the speed of light would have all of its subatomic particles frozen in position. Why? Because they'd all be moving straight forward, not in their orbits. They, again, couldnt concentrate any of their time moving in a curved direction since they couldnt move more than the speed of light.And, it seems like anything anyone says about what god is rather than what it supposedly does is "not what god is". Theists just say what god can do, the supposed consequences of it. But thats not good enough. They also have to tell what god is made out of. If not, then you cannot say that saying that "god" exists is no different than saying, "there is something i have. It can do anything." I ask, "well, what is it?" and a theist replies, "well, thats not the point. It isnt made out of anything".???????????

The point is, if god cant move, its a STATUE. It is completely senseless to say that god cant move any distance, since then he would be powerless. If god is all-powerful, he ought to be able to do that. Even, well, anything in the universe can [i]move[i].

I define "god" as an undefined entity made up by primitive people to explain what they didnt have the knowledge and/or deduction capacity to understand.

Again, the concepts of "movement" and "distance" are nonsensical when we're talking about something that doesn't have a location. What part of "God is everywhere" don't you understand? The U.S. can't "move" from New York to Los Angeles because it's already there. That doesn't mean the U.S. doesn't exist.You're "refuting" a strawman.So, are we parts of god, like New York and Los Angeles are parts of the U.S.?And secondly, the U.S. can still move; the entire U.S. can move to different parts of the world over time. Apparently, god cant do shit.
Hes worthless

Even if god is everywhere, he would still have to move to cause something to happen. If the universe were the size of my body, and I was everywhere in the universe at the same time or whatever, if I couldnt move, I couldnt do anything. Id just be there, not a causer of anything without action.And secondly, how the hell does god be everywhere and not be noticed?
Doesnt make sense to me. Give a reasonable schematic of the mechanism god uses to avoid being displaced by matter, or displace other matter. Unless you can do that, ALL youre saying is, "I know something exists. Its everywhere. It can do anything." I ask, "what is it? How does it do it?" You dont answer. I dont believe you. And thats how it goes down

hmmm..thats the thing: it DIDNT create the universe out of will aloneand secondly, you have yet to give an arguement that god even did anything in the FIRST place other than just saying he did...over and over and over againor even any evidence for it

You guys have to be, well lets face it, smart enough to realize that:if you 1.dont have a reasonable and detailed and observable schematic of how "god" works or exists like how a reasonable and detailed and observable schematic of how the Citric acid cycle works in human metabolism or a reasonable and detailed and observable schematic of how evolutionary transition works, and 2.dont show any examples of god being observed by the scientific community or other reasonable source(not a layperson, or even a group of laypeople) then all youre saying is:"hey, I know something exists". I ask, "yeah...and? point?" you say, "well it can do anything." I ask, "anything as in what?" you say, "ANYTHING. Its capable of anything." I ask, "uhhhh...well thats..interesting. What is it? How does it work?" you say, "well it doesnt work with time or mathematics" I start wondering if Im talking to a dumbassand thats the end of the story

then you have no arguement whatsoeverI feel like people are saying to me, "there are blue cat/dolphin creatures living on the third moon of xantar 284 in Andromeda"....how am I supposed to believe you? you saying that god exists is (well less, but just for the sake of convincing you Ill say no more) plausible than that above, since you claim not to be able to observe it in any way

Have you ever "observed" god?And moreover, why do you think god exists?