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The impossibility of infinite ability..aka "god"

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jar
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Message 7 of 94 (449944)
01-19-2008 10:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by TheNaturalist
01-19-2008 1:24 PM

Huh?
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01-21-2008 10:20 AM 		Reply to: Message 34 by TheNaturalist
01-20-2008 10:08 PM

Re: Limiting God to materialism
If GOD created the Universe through an act of will alone, why would GOD have to move to accomplish something?
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Message 41 of 94 (450259)
01-21-2008 12:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 40 by TheNaturalist
01-21-2008 12:33 PM

Re: Limiting God to materialism
and secondly, you have yet to give an arguement that god even did anything in the FIRST place other than just saying he did...over and over and over again
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But of course. I freely admit that I believe in GOD and that GOD did create all that is, seen and unseen. I never try to offer proof because it is impossible to test supernatural using science.
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Message 44 of 94 (450270)
01-21-2008 1:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 43 by TheNaturalist
01-21-2008 12:47 PM

Re: Limiting God to materialism
how am I supposed to believe you? you saying that god exists is (well less, but just for the sake of convincing you Ill say no more) plausible than that above, since you claim not to be able to observe it in any way
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Why would I care whether or not you believed me? I did not say that I could not observer GOD, I said that the supernatural by definition is outside the realm of Science. GOD cannot be tested scientifically.
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There is no problem with someone not believing in GOD, in fact I would say that that is the reasonable and logical position. I don't expect you to accept my word and honestly would be disappointed in your abilities if you did.
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BUT, that has nothing to do with whether or not GOD actually exists.
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If GOD exists, She exists regardless of any evidence She does not exist.
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If GOD does not exist, It does not exist regardless of any evidence It does exist.
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Message 47 of 94 (450275)
01-21-2008 1:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 45 by TheNaturalist
01-21-2008 1:08 PM

Re: Limiting God to materialism
Have you ever "observed" god?
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I think I have however I am honest enough to know that I might also be wrong.
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And moreover, why do you think god exists?
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Many reasons that I have covered elsewhere at EvC, but you can start with Belief Statement - jar and we can go from there.
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Why I believe though is not the topic, the issue is whether or not your scenario as outlined in the OP refutes my GOD. Since my GOD is something which can bring the universe into existence simply by an act of will, little issues such a movement or time or being everywhere at once or doing the impossible simply are not relevant.
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You may well think you have some astounding logic in your OP, however it is easily refuted by anyone simply saying "Nuhuh!"
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jar
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01-21-2008 2:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 48 by TheNaturalist
01-21-2008 1:50 PM

Is there a question in there?
3. youre saying that some people just cant be reasoned with because theyre too stupid (really the same as #1)
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Not quite the same as #1, since I do not agree with you. However, you are new here so I have not yet made an assessment on whether or not you can learn.
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So if someone says, "2+2=4" and someone says, "Nuhuh" then its plausible that 2+2 does not equal 4??
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No, because 2 + 2 = 4 is something which can be tested. GOD is not something which can be tested. I believe that I have mentioned that in other responses to you. Let me check...
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Ah yes, in Message 41 and Message 44.
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Can you be reasoned with?
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jar
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01-21-2008 2:21 PM 		Reply to: Message 51 by TheNaturalist
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Re: Is there a question in there?
Alright, now heres a kicker: what if GOD says that 2+2 does not equal 4?
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Then what you think is God speaking is NOT GOD and is wrong.
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Message 86 of 94 (450601)
01-22-2008 7:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 84 by TheNaturalist
01-22-2008 6:58 PM

Time to step back
douche-Priceless?
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Time for you to start to earn a little respect if you expect anyone here to take you seriously. This is not some preteen social network chatroom.
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Edited by jar, : No reason given.
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