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seekingthetruth
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Message 4 of 26 (464084)
04-23-2008 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Eximius
01-02-2003 7:50 AM


Eximius writes:
Just wondering why it seems that most creationists that dispute evolution are Christians? I say "that dispute evolution" because obviously there are other creation accounts than the Christian one so most creationists are not Christian, but all the *disputers* I've met are Christians. Are there any non-Christian creationists here? Just curious.
I believe the answer to this question would be found in the very essence of Evolution. Evolution teaches that everything happens by pure chance. Evolution would have us believe that by some miracle a ape mutated into a man. Evolution would have us believe that billions and billions of years ago a tiny particle in space that was created out of "nothing" exploded and became the universe. Chritianity teaches that God and God alone is the creator of the universe. The bible tecahes that God created heaven and then created man. To teach that man came by hapenstance go against everything chritianity believes. I personally don't have problem if someone wants to believe in Evolution, but I wanted to throw my two cents in.

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seekingthetruth
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Message 6 of 26 (464087)
04-23-2008 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Dr Adequate
04-23-2008 10:22 AM


Dr Adequate writes:
If you had bothered to find out what evolution is before talking about it, you would not currently find yourself mouthing silly falsehoods.
Really? Why don't you enlighten me then.

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seekingthetruth
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Message 9 of 26 (464093)
04-23-2008 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Dr Adequate
04-23-2008 11:29 AM


Dr Adequate writes:
Alternatively, you could read a biology textbook instead of asking to have information spoon-fed to you.
First off, I never asked to be "spoon-fed" as so eloquently put it. You made the assumption that I was "mouthing silly falsehoods". What are these "silly falsehoods"?
You should spend more time conversing, and less time trying to demean those who do not share you views.

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seekingthetruth
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Message 10 of 26 (464094)
04-23-2008 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Rahvin
04-23-2008 11:35 AM


Rahvin writes:
Evolution predicts that modern apes and human beings have a common ancestor. This is very, very different from saying an ape "morphed" into a person, or even that an ape gave birth to a human being.
The key word in your response being "predicts". There is no physical evidence showing this supposed link. You can say apes have 48 chromosomes, and man has 46. Tobacco has 48 chromosomes, does this mean my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandfather is a cigarette?
Edited by seekingthetruth, : No reason given.

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seekingthetruth
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Message 13 of 26 (464101)
04-23-2008 12:59 PM
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04-23-2008 12:20 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:
Did you at lease see how wrong you are about what the Theory of Evolutions says?
What you wrote in Message 4 isn't accurate at all.
No, I don't.

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seekingthetruth
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Message 18 of 26 (464112)
04-23-2008 1:33 PM
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04-23-2008 1:21 PM


There is still no specific evidence that shows a link between apes and humans. Where is the evidence that shows this fused chromosome came from an ape? If you are 4christ then you should believe in the bible story of creation that states animal was created first, then man was created out of the dust of the earth.

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seekingthetruth
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Message 20 of 26 (464118)
04-23-2008 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Rahvin
04-23-2008 1:32 PM


I have actually read of the responses posted on this thread. I appreciate all of the feedback given as well. While I see the point all of you are making, I still have to disagree with the entire premise that evolution stands on.

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