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John
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Message 46 of 50 (47151)
07-23-2003 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by zephyr
07-23-2003 1:10 PM


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So who's going to write the atheist bible?

I think LaVey already did that. He just named it something different.

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Asgara
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Message 47 of 50 (47175)
07-23-2003 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by John
07-23-2003 8:24 PM


But John,

Are Satanists generally considered atheists?

They don't worship a god per se, but they do believe in some kind of natural force imbodied in the individual satanists. And most of their "Nine Satanic Statements" seem to be directly antithetical to Christian beliefs. The practise religious ceremonies, have a priest class, and holidays.

I don't consider Wiccans to be atheists, they are pagans. Surely Satanists are, at the least, pagan.

Oh well, end of slightly off topic ramblings......

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John
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Message 48 of 50 (47188)
07-23-2003 9:33 PM
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07-23-2003 9:13 PM


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Are Satanists generally considered atheists?

I didn't say Satanists. I said LaVey. He didn't found a religion. He founded a circus.

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Asgara
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Message 49 of 50 (47222)
07-23-2003 10:50 PM
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07-23-2003 9:33 PM


LOL, well same could be said about most religions and thier founders.

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Rrhain
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Message 50 of 50 (47247)
07-24-2003 3:27 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by doctrbill
07-23-2003 10:23 AM


doctrbill responds to me:

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What is my background with regard to studying comparative religion with respect to atheism?

I donít know and I donít care.


And yet, you dismiss the information I provide as if it were coming from a random word generator. Let's look at what prompted my asking, shall we?

The best way to find out what atheism is is to ask atheists.

Advice which you seem to ignore in reference to yourself at the moment.

So the obvious question is: How do you know I haven't asked atheists themselves? If you're going to insist that I seem to have missed their input, I'm going to wonder how it is you justify that claim.

If you don't know and you don't care, by what basis do you justify your claim that I haven't considered the opinions of atheists?

Be specific.

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Which definition do you think gets to be the one that really counts?

Mine. Or is there going to be a test?


Well, yes. You see, you're eventually going to run across an atheist who will have a bone to pick with you regarding your definition.

Why is it you think your definition of "atheism" applies to people who call themselves atheists? That they would agree with your definition? That you have any business telling them what they believe or otherwise?

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You seem to be so sure about my personal history,

Donít know. Donít care.


But you're the one who brought it up. If you didn't know and didn't care, why did you bring it up?

The best way to find out what atheism is is to ask atheists.

Advice which you seem to ignore in reference to yourself at the moment.

If you don't like what you said, then retract it.

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