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Topic: CERN - Large Hadron Collider and the Very Early Universe
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 5 of 59 (475270)
07-14-2008 1:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Straggler 07-13-2008 6:15 PM
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Re: BB&C Please
Hi Straggler Here's a lecture from one of the physicist working for CERN at the LHC. Its a pretty detailed lecture about the LHC, how it works and what they hope to discover. Enjoy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdbnwaW34g
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 9 of 59 (477766)
08-07-2008 1:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Son Goku 08-07-2008 8:07 AM
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Re: CERN, etc
After that it may be capable of telling us if there is extra dimensions or put limits on how large extra dimensions can be. Could you explain how they'll be able to detect the extra dimentions? Edited by onifre, : spelling
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 12 of 59 (477855)
08-08-2008 11:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 10 by cavediver 08-08-2008 3:59 AM
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Re: CERN, etc
Surely you've played Half-Life?
I have not, and dont call me surely
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 14 of 59 (477935)
08-09-2008 6:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Deftil 08-09-2008 10:13 AM
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Re: CERN, etc
Thanks Deftil, good article, very cool explanations. Im wondering how long before results start being verifiable, I would say its going to be years before true results can be confirmed.
"All great truths begin as blasphemies" "I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 16 of 59 (478098)
08-12-2008 12:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by Deftil 08-10-2008 10:21 AM
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Pretty cool stuff is coming our way, im excited. Thanks for the info, im going to keep reading up on it to beter understand it but you gave me a good point in the right direction.
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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CS great video, but clearly nerds can't dance
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 21 of 59 (480724)
09-05-2008 7:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 20 by Agobot 09-05-2008 5:32 PM
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Re: Update?
Hey Abogot,
Any update on the events at CERN? The whole thing back fired! There's a massive black hole eating away at Geneva!!! Anti matter is destroying our Universe!!!! Run to the nearest worm hole!!!!! Just kidding all is well from what I hear. Heres a link to an update board that keeps, well, updates LOL. The Large Hadron Collider | CERN Here's a great article from 4-August-08,
quote: The outlook is sunny for CERN now that all the sectors are cold. The mood is growing feverish in anticipation of the LHC start-up! One of the LHC cryoplants. At the time this issue goes to press the LHC has been almost entirely cooled to 1.9K (-271C). Cooling of the 1700 main magnets commenced in January 2007, with Sector 7-8. Two months later, the temperature had dropped below 2K, making this 3.3-kilometre section the world’s largest superconducting installation cooled with superfluid helium. Cooling of the other sectors continued, with Sector 4-5 following in July 2007. In all, more than 10'000 tonnes of liquid nitrogen were needed to cool down the eight sectors, followed by 130 tonnes of helium to fill them. "This amount of helium is approximately one percent of global annual production," says Laurent Tavian, head of the Cryogenics Group. "CERN gets its helium under two delivery contracts, most of it coming from two sources: one in Algeria and the other in Russia. For LHC filling, the rates of delivery to CERN had to be increased by a factor of five, to a peak of 40 tonnes per month!" During cool-down, numerous operations were conducted. "For example, the final phase of cooling to 1.9K required the deployment of complex pumping systems combining several stages of cryogenic centrifugal compressors," explains Tavian. In the first few sectors these operations, of considerable technical difficulty, took more time to complete, as the responsible teams had to hone their skills. Thus, while cooling down and testing of Sectors 7-8 and 4-5 took place over periods of roughly eight months, for the last sectors both operations were completed in only three months. Now that the entire accelerator is cold, the process of commissioning is continuing with electrical tests (see BULLETIN No. 30-31/2008) to verify the functioning of the magnets. Following these final tests, the machine will be ready for start-up. The first beam should be circulating in the accelerator in the first week of September. The cooling process The cooling down of the sectors takes place in three stages. In the first stage, 1250 tonnes of liquid nitrogen is used above-ground for the purpose of pre-cooling the helium, which is then piped to the sectors underground. The temperature of the helium drops to 80K, while the nitrogen evaporates into the atmosphere, creating a vapour plume. In the second stage the dipoles are cooled to 4.5K. Finally, the third stage entails the use of a pumping system to lower the pressure of the liquid helium so as to reach the requisite 1.9K (approximately -271C). At that temperature, the helium is superfluid and loses its viscosity, increasing its capacity for heat transfer and wetting of the superconductors.
"All great truths begin as blasphemies" "I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2981 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Yes, but there a lot of people out there that take Star Trek seriously and think Star Trek is real or at least really, really want it to be. Yeah but they aren't the type of people that will be procreating so don't worry, DA. But, just to stir the pot a bit, the Star Trek senario is plausable and something physicist see happening in the distant future.
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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