I have been perusing this forum for some three years now and believe I have found a topic that has not recently been discussed.
In its most blatant expression, Buzsaw is apparently arguing that because the President of the United States, Barak Obama, had a Muslim father, who also had a Muslim father, then he must be a Muslim and neither we or him have any choice to allow him to be considered otherwise.
Now in my personal experience, I must differ with those who say that the offspring carry all the exact personality traits of their parents, including whatever religion, politics, or individual idiosyncrasies such parents may have upon achieving a reasonable approximation of adulthood.
Obviously there are those who are essentially extensions of their parents and have held the umbilical chord as a sacred bond. I know, two of that philosophy work for me right now. While one must honor such consideration for their parents in form, a truly fulfilled person has pity, for they have not truly been individual enough to do things such as loved and lost (or even eventually loved and won), to have children and fully experienced all that entails, good or bad, to have fought for a cause beyond the apron of the parent, to have seen for oneself any approximation of the truth, or indeed to even have a soul independent of another.
I argue that my sister and I are not our parents, and I argue that it is a good thing. I also argue that they were not their parents and it is also a good thing.
For example, my grandmother and uncle were both members of the Klu Klux Klan in the 1920s when they were particularly popular. That as the world my father and mother were brought up in. Just for one example, when I was young, I dropped some change in a dressing room in Oakland when I was 6 years old. My parents told me to ask for it back from the person who followed me until to their horror, a black man exited. They said, well within ear distance, no don't ask him, he's a nigger.
Welcome to 1964 America.
Well, after those nasty 60s ran their course, the effects of which many conservatives in this nation (USA) still curse and my sister and I became fans of All in the Family, after they showed Roots (my father cried), after the movie Amistad, well....It changed my father's and mother's attitude.
Thank God he went to the grave with the advantage of a changed perspective.
There is a purpose to this lengthy narrative. What I propose is that many of the opponents of science, racial equality, indeed even the questioning of authority in general are psychologically incapable of cutting the umbilical chord. Indeed I would even argue that those who are psychologically incapable of cutting the umbilical chord, argue for some form of genealogy is destiny.
I believe I have clearly refuted this idea that genealogy is destiny in the above while Buzsaw and his ilk argue for such an absurdity because they have no examples outside of the 'circle of trust' with which to compare.
Obviously such a caste system is against even the remotest conception of the Constitution of the United States of America.
Enough of the setup. What I propose is that any and all provide a narrative of when they had to defy their parents, or any other authority figures in their youth, in matters of principle, the younger the better.
Coffee house?
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