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Author Topic:   Calling Von Cullen - Anti Evolution Molecular Biologist!!
Von Cullen
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Message 8 of 43 (504200)
03-25-2009 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Stagamancer
03-23-2009 8:22 PM


Now before we get started with this, I'd just like to point out that Von Cullen has an email address at http://www.shsafetysolutions.com, which I'm assuming he has because he works there. This is a company that offers safety training to construction companies. So, it makes me curious to know what exactly a molecular biologist does for this company.
IMPORTANT
This does not mean I think it's impossible for Von Cullen to be a molecular biologist, only that I'm skeptical, and would like an explanation before we assume Von Cullen is an actively researching molecular biologist.
So, Von Cullen, if you'd oblige, please........
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I am not doing this as some kind of witch hunt. If Von Cullen has interesting arguments to make, whether a biologist or not, he should be heard, but the purpose of this thread is pretty much defeated if he is not, in fact, a molecular biologist.
I guess I should clarify this...No problem. I am, by profession, an occupational safety & health consultant and Industrial Hygienist. I have a PhD in Molecular Biology and a BS in occupational health. As a profession my research has been focused in the field of industrial hygiene. But I do a great deal of independent research in a variety of areas related to Biology. Does this suffice?
Edited by Von Cullen, : No reason given.

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Von Cullen
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Message 9 of 43 (504203)
03-25-2009 7:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
03-23-2009 3:56 PM


We have a claimed molecular biologist who appears to be anti-evolution.
As Ive said before, I'm not "Anti-Evolution". My point was to simply state that evolution cannot be explained by remaining at the level of Gross Anatomy.

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Von Cullen
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Message 12 of 43 (504218)
03-25-2009 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Chiroptera
03-25-2009 9:14 AM


Here is an example provided by a member in the "Evolution of Creationism" thread. The person quotes a section of Darwins Origin of Species.
In the Articulata we can commence a series with an optic nerve merely coated with pigment, and without any other mechanism; and from this low stage, numerous gradations of structure, branching off in two fundamentally different lines, can be shown to exist, until we reach a moderately high stage of perfection. . . With these facts, here far too briefly and imperfectly given, which show that there is much graduated diversity in the eyes of living crustaceans, and bearing in mind how small the number of living animals is in proportion to those which have become extinct, I can see no very great difficulty (not more than in the case of many other structures) in believing that natural selection has converted the simple apparatus of an optic nerve merely coated with pigment and invested by transparent membrane, into an optical instrument as perfect as is possessed by any member of the great Articulate class.
What the poster fails to mention is that Darwin failed to discover an evolutionary pathway used to make the eye. Instead, he pointed to modern day animals with different kinds of eyes and suggested that evolution of the human eye MIGHT have involved similar organs as intermediates. At best, Darwin convinced most of the world that a modern eye evolved gradually from a simple structure, but he didnt even try to explain where the starting point - The light sensitive spot - came from.
When it became apparent that larger complex features could be explained by extant and extinct species (the mammalian middle ear is another good example) the creationists moved to systems which could not leave a fossil record, namely cellular microscopic systems such as bacterial flagellum. With zero chance of a fossil record they wouldn't have to worry about those pesky transitional fossils.
Larger complex features cannot be explained by extant and extinct species. To say that it "could", is a rather weak hypothesis. Saying something "could" have developed in a particular manner isnt the same as providing viable, scientific evidence that it has. This is the problem with societies main stream view of evolutionary science. Possibilities and educated guesses get presented as irrefutable fact.

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Von Cullen
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Joined: 03-23-2009


Message 15 of 43 (504223)
03-25-2009 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Percy
03-25-2009 11:50 AM


I was asked to provide an example and I did. Im sorry if that example doesnt suffice.
Edited by Von Cullen, : No reason given.

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Von Cullen
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Message 17 of 43 (504226)
03-25-2009 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Von Cullen
03-25-2009 11:58 AM


Like all the other steps, from a mutation
All mutations still require a starting point.

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