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Sharon357
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Message 7 of 12 (54359)
09-07-2003 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Minnemooseus
06-30-2003 1:29 AM


Re: Whale message from another topic
Accidentally posted twice. Sorry!
I'm erasing this one.
[This message has been edited by Sharon357, 09-07-2003]

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Sharon357
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Message 8 of 12 (54360)
09-07-2003 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Minnemooseus
06-30-2003 1:29 AM


Re: Whale message from another topic
These articles were recently added:
Anatomy of modern whales (photos contributed by the Milwaukee Public Museum) accompanied with a brief commentary on the museum exhibit/ whale anatomy / whale evolution by Hans Thewissen, Ph.D.
Whale Anatomy and Photos of Limb Rudiments on Modern Day Whales
Thewissen makes the best argument, explaining it is only normal (in difference to what AIG has said), only normal for these vestigial hind limbs to be used in reproduction! Only normal, for even humans and other mammals, have leg muscles attached to genitalia. 55 million years ago, the longer legs on whales, like humans, had muscles from the genitalia attached to legs... as the legs shrank down through evolutionary history, the muscles are still attached. So the argument by AIG means nothing!
Also Hans Thewissen verifies beyond doubt, the whale skeleton exhibit with the rudimentary bones attached, that there was indeed a femur but it these are made of cartilage, so it is not present in the mount at the Museum.
For those who are intrigued with the work of Hans Thewissen, I'll add this information also...
WKSU Radio - Featuring Hans Thewissen
Page Not Found | WKSU
VERY GOOD!
We're working on a neat new website now, that shows the embryological data. Little dolphin embryos with hind limbs for instance. Suspected launch: fall 2003.
http://darla.neoucom.edu/...S/FACULTY/BMSfac/ThewissenJ.html
Thewissen - Northeastern Ohio Universities
- J. G. M. Hans Thewissen, Ph. D.
Also...
Located in the August 2003 Latest Directory:
Photos of Hind Limb Rudiments on Modern Day Whales
(and Cretinist Answers)by Edward T. Babinski
Photos of hind limb rudiments on modern day whales (and creationist "answers")
(In relation to Ed Babinski's Cetacean/Whale Evolution article)
located at Whale Evolution and Atavistic Hind Limbs on Modern Whales
As for the article with the response from Dr.Jonathan Sarfati,located at:
File Not Found
has been temporarily disabled, because of this:
----- Original Message -----
From: AiG Mail
To: webmaster@edwardtbabinski.us
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: Dr. Jonathan Sarfati, Ph.D.
Dear Webmaster of Ed Babinski,
... then he’ll talk.
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so, the webmaster of edwardtbabinski.us is under the impression that Dr. Sarfati will indeed give a serious debate about the reality of vestigial hind limbs on whales/cetaceans with Ed Babinski.
I hope so.
Scrivenings
Update Note on August 3, 2005
Sarfati never fulfilled on his promise. There was no debate on the issue. He dealt with the photographs by ignoring them.
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