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09-27-2003 10:53 PM
In disucssing the evolution of the eye with Joralex I managed to bring up an off topic point about creation science and the schools. I am starting this topic to carry that on and avoid further digressions in the eye evolution thread.
This is the content of mine and Joralex's comments
Joralex, I would like to clarify something please.
Go for it.
There are at least a couple of different camps within the "creationist" group. One may be said to be simply interested in their religion and wish to preserve it in their church. The other are "creation scientists" who believe that creationists ideas should be taught in publically funded schools.
I don't think you want to go there, NosyNed.
You seem to have a foot in both camps. You start to argue from what you think are scientific points at one moment and then evoke god's miracles at the next.
I've yet to learn how to separate a person from his/her convictions... maybe you can show me how this is done.
If you want to play miracles then I won't bother to argue with you.
"Miracles"? You mean like the 'miracle' where once-upon-a-time life emerged from lifeless chemicals and then started down a road towards complexity and diversity? You mean 'miracles' like that, NosyNed?
Of course, you might have to argue with all the others who have a different god with differnt miracles but that's not my concern. I agree very stongly with the separatation of church and state which protects your right to believe as you see fit.
"Separation of church and state" - what's that?
As for the other part, yes, I am free to believe in my 'miracles' and you are free to believe in yours - we both have religious convictions, NosyNed, we just worship a different 'god'.
However, if you want to poke your nose out of church and pretend to be playing at science. Then you play by a different set of rules.
Evoking miracles doesn't explain anything in that game.
Then why are Naturalists evoking 'naturalistic miracles' all the time?
Tell me - and you may consult with anyone you like - explain to us how life emerged solely by natural, unguided processes. I'll wait for your reply ...
It's been tried before. Trying to explain the motion of the sun, lightening, disease and so on. Wrong each time.
Ignorance has existed in all times, including the present - so?
I think you need to pick which camp you are in. If you pick the first one, then stay out of the schools. If the second, learn the rules.
My camp is that of my Lord, Jesus Christ.
As for 'staying out of schools' - you'd like that, wouldn't you?
That way our children wouldn't stand a chance with the onslought of materialistic naturalism that is pumped into their unsuspecting, not-yet-fully-critical minds.
I think not - I and others like me will remain ever-vigilant to at least try and stem the tide of encroaching materialism.
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