Drugs are for Everyone

Depending on the drug of course, but some users, esp. of psychedelic drugs, are trying to experience a different state of mind. They're not trying to adjust their mood, they're trying to experience a different reality.Maybe this is the same thing as you were saying but it didn't seem right to me the way you wrote it. Not at all. There is no dissatisfaction involved when you're at a Pink Floyd concert and having a great time. If you happen to smoke some pot while you're there it wasn't because you were dissatisfied; you just wanted to experience the concert in a different state of mind, but both equally satisfying. Enjoying a glass of wine and a cigar is partaking in their use for the taste, so not all people who use these products are in it for the chemical change. Personally I like to experience different states of reality, some I like, some I don't care for. Its never had to do with being dissatisfied with a current state of mind, it's more of a curiousity as to what other state of mind are there. I sure hope not, sounds rather boring to me.But really, you should be asking if there will ever come a time when humanity isn't going to have to work ridiculous amounts of hours just to get by, which forces them to form a dependency on coffee and cigs. Coffee to stay awake because their job is boring and would make anyone fall asleep, and cigs so they don't kill their co-workers.End that insanity and you'll see a huge reduction in dependency.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

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Have you ever heard of or been to a coffee tasting? Coffee isn't just coffee anymore. There are true, knowledgable aficionados in the coffee world who are ONLY in it for the taste.The real reason people take "drugs" like nicotine and caffeine is because they work long hours, at boring jobs, are stressed out, and need a momentary outlet from the grind they're in.Don't blame the coffee and the cigs, blame the shitty state of being most humans find themselves in.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

But caffeine and nicotine are not the only things one gets from coffee and cigar products. Just like alcohol is not the only thing you get from wine. Starbucks, just to name one giant in the coffee business, is all about the coffee experience. They don't sell coffee to a few connoisseurs, they sell to the majority of coffee drinkers. And they're NOT selling the caffeine to them, they're selling the taste of the brews and variety of different blends from all over the world.You can have a negetaive opinion of caffeine as an addictive chemical, but not of the coffee. Connoisseurs for cigs? No. But most smokers smoke a prefered brand and blend because of the taste. Some cigarettes, depending on how much you want to spend, taste very nice, esp. with some nice after dinner Scotch, as I like it. I also know plenty of people that have a cigarette of one of the better tasting brands just once or twice a day after a meal or with a drink. They laced the tobacco with other things, it wasn't the tobacco itself.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

I guess when you're only familiar with the habits of a few maybe you shouldn't talk like you know the habits of all. My bad.Thanks Omni, I stand corrected on the native folk's wacky tobacky. - Oni

No, but if you were ONLY talking about cigarettes then you should have been specific, but you weren't.You said: Were in that does it indicate that you were only talking about cigarettes? Taste and Aroma from many different tobacco products. They're also enjoyed when paired with food or drinks. Can you be specific as to how it's addiction?Are you saying that anyone who has coffee a few times a week because they enjoy the taste and the experience in a coffee shop is addicted?Would you say the same thing about someone who has a glass of wine in a wine-bar a few times a week for the taste and the experience in the wine-bar? No, I meant better. If you smoke you know what's better and what's shit. There are some very well blended cigarettes these days that are better than the very cheap brands as far as taste goes.Just like with scotch. A real scotch drinker will tell you which is better. Least offensive? Would you say the same about scotch? If not, why not?Advertising? I don't think I have seen a cigarette advertisment in a long while.- Oni

That's why I asked you to be specific as to how it's an addiction. If you're saying that someone is addicted because of the social atmosphere, then it has nothing to do with the caffeine, and you're using "addiction" very loosely. They could just be bored at home, lonely, and need to socialize.If the social atmosphere in a coffee shop has that affect then how is that a negative or an addiction? Umm, yup. Ok, wine, steak, beer, cigars, cheese - pick one, then answer the same question.Least offensive? Would you say the same about ______? If not, why not? Actually I have changed brands 3 times.- Oni