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crashfrog
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 24 of 45 (588001)
10-21-2010 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Panda
10-21-2010 9:05 PM


But my argument is that those particular drugs offer no relief from any drudgery in our lives.
If they didn't offer relief people wouldn't take them.
But caffeine and nicotine* offer little more than addiction.
Completely wrong. Caffeine offers improved alertness, improved recollection, improved cognition, and improved sensation. (Nicotine offers weight loss, which I guess isn't exactly worth it.)
It's often posed to ethics students: "if you could take a drug with no side effects that would make you smarter, would you do it?" A certain kind of person always answers "no" as he takes a sip from a beverage that does exactly that.
Our brains run on drugs, Panda. None of these drugs could have any effect on your whatsoever if there weren't already receptors for them in your brain cells. Why are those receptors present? For your body's own natural drugs. The drugs it's using to make you do some things and not do others. The drugs it uses to make you want to eat. To make you want to have sex.
I doubt if there are any cigarette connoisseurs.
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Cigar Aficionado is an American magazine that is dedicated to the world of cigars. Published since September 1992, the magazine is known for its articles about different brands of cigars worldwide, and for the celebrities that have appeared on its cover. It is also noted for its opposition to the Cuban embargo. Subtitled as "The Good Life Magazine for Men", it is published by Marvin R. Shanken's M. Shanken Communications, who also publishes Wine Spectator magazine.
I don't understand how someone could survey the vast world of coffees, wines, cigars, even the underground culture of cannabis varieties, and conclude that every person who uses a drug for any purpose is just a strung-out junkie after nothing but a fix. That's like saying that everyone who has ever had sex is a slut.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1497 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 38 of 45 (588135)
10-22-2010 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Panda
10-22-2010 5:27 AM


These effects are from single use. Tolerence to caffeine is rapid.
And easily lost. Symptoms of caffeine withdrawal are mild at worst and unnoticeable at best.
It's practically the perfect drug, which is why it's in so many different things.
Are you saying that people enjoy smoking because of the weight loss?
I think they enjoy it for the flavor, for the ritual, for the companionship (smokers typically smoke socially), and for the buzz. You didn't ask why they enjoy it, though; you asked what those drugs offer us.
This seems to be a rant aimed at me, but unconnected to anything I have said.
I can't even see what the point is you're trying to make.
If you can't understand simple sentences rendered in English, maybe you shouldn't make accusations about your opponents' ability to read?
Please try again.
Why bother? You admitted you can't understand English.
Sorry, I thought I was talking to someone interested in discussion. I'll go find a more rewarding use of my time.

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