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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Perhaps for starters an international arrest warrant can be issued on the grounds of incitement of violence against women? That I would love to see. The comments are a disgrace and the RCC should not only be distancing itself from them and him, it should be condemning them and him and apologising to women all over the world. What an utter, utter fuckwit!
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Message 28 of 75 (647517)
01-10-2012 6:31 AM
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I think the problem with the Archbishop's sermon is that he has made the comments in his professional role. He is an authority who was teaching (or preaching) to a congregation he has authority over. As far as I can tell, what he was saying goes against what the Christian church teaches, not casting stones etc. Law enforcement agencies in his area may want to point out that nothing allows people to disregard the law with regard to rape. The RCC who he represents should be taking him to task over this, unless of course they think he has a point. If they do nothing they are demonstrating that they are aligning themselves with his statement. If that is what happens then the RCC will deserve all of the fall-out they get. Have they learned nothing from the various child abuse scandals? In the UK there is a law against incitement to violence and giving people carte blanche to commit rape may come under this. Whether the law in Spain is the same I have no idea. Imagine a school teacher in a religious education class making this statement. If your child was in that class what would you do? I think the local authorities would be removing that teacher from it's payroll swiftly and issuing apologies to all concerned. While we may all yell about the right to free speech, does this archbishop have the right to "free teach"?
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Message 31 of 75 (647524)
01-10-2012 7:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 29 by caffeine 01-10-2012 7:06 AM
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Re: Abhorrent, but not incitement
The argument "it's her own fault for wearing a short skirt" is not the same as saying that wearing a short skirt gives a man "absolute licence to abuse her body without restrictions". That's the exact words that it is claimed the archbishop used. It's the phrase "absolute licence" that I see as the problem. Can I point out that the short skirt argument, whichever way you slice it, isn't acceptable either, just incase someone thinks I'm alright with that.
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Message 50 of 75 (647622)
01-10-2012 2:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw 01-08-2012 9:10 PM
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Re: So What's New With The RCC?
I jeered your comment because it exhibits nothing but anti RCC bigotry. Convent brothels? What are you wittering about? Your link certainly doesn't have anything to do with convents, let alone convent brothels. What is a convent brothel in your eyes? I'm assuming that it's any convent, but feel free to correct me. Your anti RCC bigotry is well-known on this forum, but this nonsense about conventbrothels is a new low, even for you. Tell me, did you actually read your own link? So that's why I jeered your comment - it contains erroneous information and smacks of hatred. Do you know any Roman Catholics? Have you any Roman Catholic friends? If you do, do you include them in your blanket condemnation of the RCC?
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Message 51 of 75 (647625)
01-10-2012 2:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 39 by Buzsaw 01-10-2012 11:56 AM
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Re: Six Jeers & Zero Responses. Go Figure
OK, this time I did press the Jeer button and it's come up as a Cheer. Buz, you're sounding more and more like Ray Martinez (aka Cold Foreign Object, aka Willowtree) and his constant declarations of "inability to refute". Soon you'll be referring to "the eminent and learned scholar Dr Gene Scott, PhD". Just because people think your post is crap doesn't make you right. Maybe, just maybe, it's because your post is, in fact, crap.
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Message 63 of 75 (647709)
01-10-2012 9:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 59 by Buzsaw 01-10-2012 7:43 PM
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Re: So What's New With The RCC?
Trixie, your charge of bigotry and false allegations need to be supported by you, before airing them and personally attacking me. Do you have any idea what's in the two books which I cited? Do you have any idea what's in the link you provided for convent brothels? ABE You seem to know the religious affiliation of all of your friends and aquaintances. I haven't a clue about most of mine. I wonder what that means. Edited by Trixie, : To add last paragraph
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Message 70 of 75 (647797)
01-11-2012 11:20 AM
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Reply to: Message 69 by Buzsaw 01-11-2012 8:28 AM
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Re: Convent Brothels
A quote from buz's latest source
In the ninth century, many monasteries were the haunts of homosexuals; many convents were brothels What has the 9th century got to do with what this archbishop has said? Are you claiming that its still going on? Your original source was about an RC priest agreeing with the Women's Institute that brothels should be legalised and regulated, his argument being that, while he doesn't agree with prostitution, this might help to alleviate problems in the area in question, eg safety for women in the sex industry,getting prostitutes off the streets. It was this that you provided as a source for convent brothels and it has absolutely nothing to do with convent brothels, neither has it anything to do with the topic at hand.
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Message 75 of 75 (647913)
01-11-2012 7:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 74 by Buzsaw 01-11-2012 6:59 PM
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Re: Behind The Purple Curtain
Buz, the topic is "New Catholic Scandal" and it's about comments made by an archbishop in his Xmas sermon. The topic is NOT "Every Scandal Ever To Hit the Catholic Church", nor is it "Let's Bash the Catholic Church". Your initial comment which garnered so many Jeers and which you don't feel deserves jeers is what prompted me to explain to you why I jeered it - off topic, citation which didn't support what you cited it for. End of. If you don't like my explanation, so be it, but it's MY explanation.
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