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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Can you help me out with the science behind this paper? I have to admit to being able to critique the paper myself. After all for every paper denying AGW, there are many more supporting it.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Yet, our planet has been far warmer and cooler than today many times in the geologic past, including the past 10,000 years. Is this some kind of rebuttal? Seriously? This is the exact some non-science that I hear from Ralph Reed and his Christian Coalition. Hasn't this line of argument been chewed on enough?
AAPG=American Association of Petroleum Geologists Next up, foxes question need for expensive security at hen house; volunteer for guard duty.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I appreciate the links.
I'll admit that my post was an attempt to get Coyote to comment substantively on the paper since his wont is to post and run. I don't actually see all that much science in the paper.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I always thought it odd that Sanders was expected to beat Hillary in North Dakota (which he did by over 30 points on the final day of voting on June 7 - minus the D.C. vote), when he was for banning fracking. Apparently, in ND, fracking is not the biggest issue. Beyond the fracking stuff, weren't the demographics in ND pretty similar to what we found in most of the states that turned out to be Sanders landslides? About fracking in ND, the cheap price of gasoline has pretty much reduced the fracking economy to a naught point diddly squat. That might have a lot to do with things. In North Dakota's oil patch, a humbling comedown
quote: Maybe the minimum wage, for example, is more important to the vast number of folks in ND who have not yet beat feet out of that wasteland. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Environmental policy is screwed with misguided (very bad) political policy being constantly pushed. Banning fracking may be a bad policy. But the popularity of banning fracking as a policy is compared to the adoption policies pursued by the opposing party. Using my state as an example of a state in which the republicans dominate state level politics, the adoption policies appear to be enormous, and risky concessions to the industry regarding negotiating for rights with land owners, control of emissions and waste water, environmental oversight, and removal of any attempt ability for localities to pass ordinances protecting their citizens. Fracking has the potential for providing an enormous benefit along with an enormous carbon footprint. Yet in NC policy is set by folks who will never acknowledge AGW until we get some beach front property here in Durham. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Goodness gracious me. Only 19 US Senators? Out of 100? For such a powerful country? It doesn't bode well for the future of humanity. 19 out of the 44 senators who have any likelihood of not going along with the Koch brothers. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
But will the Koch brothers object to the federal government building a lot of solar-power plants? Sigh. Let's examine their record on this subject. Opinion | The Koch Attack on Solar Energy - The New York Times Can the Koch Brothers Block the Sun? An Experiment in Iowa - WhoWhatWhy Koch Brothers Backing Misleading Anti-Solar Campaign in Florida CONTRARY BRIN: Why are the Koch brothers opposing solar energy? The Koch brothers and large utilities have allied to reverse state policies that favor renewable energy. Environmentalists are pushing back, but the fight is spreading and intensifying.
quote: My guess. No, the Koch brothers would not be in favor of a federal government backed plan to displace fossil fuels. But I am sure you will harbor whatever doubts about that that you have. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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